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    Bards wanted their DPS to be brought closer to that of the other DPS, that meant hindering their mobility.
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Bards wanted their DPS to be brought closer to that of the other DPS, that meant hindering their mobility.
    Pretty much.


    My only current gripe with Bard is the change to Barrage, or rather the lack of consistency in its new function. It says it makes a non-critical WEAPONSKILL hit 3 times with only 1 effect, but the only weaponskills it applies to are the DoTs, Straight Shot and Heavy Shot.

    I was a bit disappointed to see that both Quick Nock and Wide Volley were indeed Weaponskills, but they didn't trigger the effect from Barrage.

    Also, the trait still references autoattacks, which is just an oversight i'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    Pretty much.


    My only current gripe with Bard is the change to Barrage, or rather the lack of consistency in its new function. It says it makes a non-critical WEAPONSKILL hit 3 times with only 1 effect, but the only weaponskills it applies to are the DoTs, Straight Shot and Heavy Shot.

    I was a bit disappointed to see that both Quick Nock and Wide Volley were indeed Weaponskills, but they didn't trigger the effect from Barrage.

    Also, the trait still references autoattacks, which is just an oversight i'm sure.
    Does it not work with embrylian arrow? I could've sworn its counted as a weapon skill despite the cooldown.

    Also this is what happens if the inherent design of the class isn't changed to accommodate; I'm talking about bloodletter resets and the oh-so-frustrating straighter shot procs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Does it not work with embrylian arrow? I could've sworn its counted as a weapon skill despite the cooldown.

    Also this is what happens if the inherent design of the class isn't changed to accommodate; I'm talking about bloodletter resets and the oh-so-frustrating straighter shot procs.
    I'm pretty sure it will work with Emp. Arrow, but it doesnt work with the AoEs. It seems like it just doesn't proc on multi-target abilities.

    I forgot to check if it procs on Misery's End though.
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    The tooltip says it applies to a single target weapon skill so I would assume as long as its not an AoE (quick nock, etc.) it would apply.
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    Kayo Lireaux
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    I forgot to check if it procs on Misery's End though.
    Doesnt work on Misery's End. At least not on my current level. Tried it a ton of times to check. Plus since I have it macro'd as Barrage>Misery's End>Heavy Shot and its popped sometimes right before using Misey's End and it doesnt do the 3 hits (I wish!). At least it doesnt remove the proc so it'll hit with whatever comes next. Heavy Shot is really the only ability worth using Barrage with (again, at my level).

    As for WM... havent tried it but I like the sound of it. Then again im one of the few BRD's who doesnt care about the support abilities (though I still use them when needed) or mobility as much. Makes sense that an Archer would have to line up a shot correctly for pin-point accuracy/max damage. My favorite Archer classes so far have been in LoTR which had a great Hunter with a lot of stationary cast times IIRC and Rift where they had an ability where standing in a very small AoE gave you a damage buff.

    They should make MCH the mobile job instead. Guns arent as accurate nor do they really need to be.
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Bard Lv 80
    i actually like the buff lol use it in most boss fights for extra damage and the cast time added to skills is barely noticeable its not a massive cast time ._.
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    Sakura Kinakina
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I like the song sure i miss being fast but i can choose to take the song off and play it when i want to bust out a new skill. WM makes at least me pull off 1600-1700 crit at times ^^ and i love that glow around my body lol however at times i still for get i can't run when doing a skill :P but it's growing on me
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    Taban Highwind
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I would be much more ok with it if it was an instant toggle, having a 3 second cast time to even turn the mode on makes switching it on the fly much more prohibitive.
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    Carde Graves
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Why do you need to move constantly? If you aren't kiting something then sit your hyperactive ass down and do your damage.

    Welcome to playing the Shoot, Step, Shoot, Step game that BLM's have been playing for so long. You'll get the hang of it.
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