Why play Machinist over Bard?

[Ephier]

You are looking at numbers and not actual play. Currently a level 52 MCN, the class is very burst with a lot of cooldowns with short cooldowns. It is very easy to say oh look at this napkin math and look at potency numbers, but it will be a few more weeks till we see the difference. Even if it is underpowered, that just means buffs are coming.

[Sylve]

OP Snip

Why pick Machinist? Easy.
The rotation is more than just DoT+DoT->Bloodletter/Heavyshot macro with the occasional Straight Shot for the buff.

The RNG on Split/Slug/Clean Shots is what makes t fun. Utilizing Reloads at the right times, throwing down the Turret properly, re-positioning it when required, keeping up buffs and debuffs and using cooldowns properly is all much more fun to me.
Also, Machinist gets all the cooldowns BRD does, so you can't even argue it has better burst, because RS+BfB+Reload+RF has better damage than RS+BfB-> Heavy Shot spam.

So BRDs will be chosen by people who enjoy BRDs and MCH will be chosen by people who enjoy MCH.
As it should be, as it will be and as it was designed to be.

Though BRDs will finally have a little variety at 60 with the Minuet and Sidewinder? shaking things up a bit.

[Sessurea]

Why pick Machinist? Easy.
The rotation is more than just DoT+DoT->Bloodletter/Heavyshot macro with the occasional Straight Shot for the buff.

And monks all ignore positionals and spam bootshine.

[Sylve]

And monks all ignore positionals and spam bootshine.

Straight Shot -> Venomous Bite -> Windbite -> Bloodletter ->Heavy Shot
Flaming Arrow when not on CD. Straight Shot on crit proc, refresh DoTs, keep spamming Heavy Shot. Cycle through cooldowns.

So no, your sarcasm doesn't work because i was correctly describing the BRD rotation.
Heavensward's post 50 abilities DO shake up the BRD a bit, granted but i don't have those yet since my BRD is still 50.

[NasirILL]

Because its fun?

[Sovereign]

Yeah, sadly MCH is seriously underpowered right now. There is no reason to bring a MCH over a BRD if you are looking to maximize the DPS potential of your group. If you're just looking to have fun and don't really care about how people perform, then sure, bring whatever you'd like. As it sits right now, any group with a MCH is just losing potential by not having a BRD instead.

[BlurtedNonsense]

Have you taken account for the damage the turret provides? Even with gauss attachment making auto attacks null that turret is still doing constant damage. Plus you can buff it. With that in mind you'll probably break even with a BRD. I hear BRDs complain that SMN out damage them with wanderers minute playing. Time will tell what's better than what. I know I'm happy with MCH it's a fun and new change of pace.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

My one and only gripe right now is MCH not having access to Pugilist cross class skills as well. From the always-useful Internal Release to the near-essential/QoL Second Wind, this allows Bards to have the edge, especially survival wise.

EVERY other physical DPS can use Second Wind. Don't throw a wrench in our works.

[SasakiNori]

My one and only gripe right now is MCH not having access to Pugilist cross class skills as well. From the always-useful Internal Release to the near-essential/QoL Second Wind, this allows Bards to have the edge, especially survival wise.

EVERY other physical DPS can use Second Wind. Don't throw a wrench in our works.

Crossclass from PGL instead of what? I rather have HE/RS from bard or invig/B4B from drg than give either of those up for IR/Wind/Mantra.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Crossclass from PGL instead of what? I rather have HE/RS from bard or invig/B4B from drg than give either of those up for IR/Wind/Mantra.

There's no instead implied. I did say "as well". I had ALL those skills and used them all as a Bard. Machinist is just completely locked out of the Pugilist skills by design. I say why make them the one physical DPS exception?