Game of Thrones reference overload (minor spoilers)

[Atoli]

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I'm just shocked HOW much the english translators referenced it. I'd probably feel the same if it was that extreme (although some things are just your personal perception and have nothing to do with GoT, like "wow, an NPC is called Eddard, an extremely common name, that MUST be a reference!"), but in other languages it isn't. There are some refrences which are fun to find (and make me question why I'm even helping out anyone in Ishgard, considering how everyone seems to still be living in the dark ages there..xD) but that's it.
Just blame the NA translators for being huge fans of the books/show and dropping a huge bucket of references on you, even when it wasn't neccessary, making the few story-driven ones seem like too much.

[Miya_Carbuncle]

I don't watch GoT personally, so I guess it wont be affecting me. *shrug*

I honestly don't think I'd care though. References are fun when done right IMO.

[Takfloyd]

You're wrong, sorry Takfloyd. Simply and utterly wrong. Are they coincidences? No, you're right about that. Because they are TROPES. Staples of the genre. Extremely common elements you see in nearly any piece of semi-historical/medieval-like fiction.

Laughable. Don't make a fool of yourself - you clearly aren't familiar with Game of Thrones.

[Kaedan]

Laughable. Don't make a fool of yourself - you clearly aren't familiar with Game of Thrones.

LOL And you're clearly not familiar with the meaning of the word "trope".

[Takfloyd]

LOL And you're clearly not familiar with the meaning of the word "trope".

It is you who need to familiarize yourself with that word, which you obviously just learned from TVTropes last year.

Direct quotes and name references aren't tropes.

[RyuRoots]

It is you who need to familiarize yourself with that word, which you obviously just learned from TVTropes last year.

Direct quotes and name references aren't tropes.

So are you next going to tell us that GoT invented Dragons? Babby's First Grimderp fans always make stuff like this. Are there references? Sure. But first, Dusk Vigil and its position were known LONG before Heavensward came out. And you're seriously having someone being a rank we've also known exists within Ishgard for ages as a "reference"? I'm not gonna break down every point, but the gist is this: some of those are references, but you're being a desperate fanboy if you wanna try to say that EVERYTHING about it is a GoT reference.

[Bartel]

Yes, because Game of Thrones invented Trial by Combat.... >_> Oh, and "in the eyes of gods and men" is a very, very common phrase from the historical period. Like as common as "Ladies and Gentlemen".

Yeah, because the fact that's it's been used more than once in the past 2,000 years of human evolution somehow negates the overwhelming abundance of GoT references throughout FFXIV. Have you even played Heavensward?

Aside from trial by combat, "in the eyes of gods and men", and the COUNTLESS quests/references to GoT, please tell me how you'd like to justify the use of "little birds" by Lolorito in the main questline after rescuing Rabhaun. It's a literal parallel to GoT.

A huge chunk of Heavensward is a direct ripoff of GoT, whether you want to admit it or not.

Sorry for the necro, but come on... how has no one called out this blatant copying and borderline plagiarsm?

[Morningstar1337]

Sorry for the necro, but come on... how has no one called out this blatant copying and borderline plagiarsm?

prolly because of three reasons

• most of the players aren't lawyers, let alone those on George RR Martin's payroll
• The few that are, likely don't want to kill this game or Square Enix for one reason or another
• Japan's copyright laws are laxer, America's and Europe's might have a higher threshold for what is considered plagiarism and SE likely has a legal team to help them in court cases or preventing court cases. Plus George RR Martin or the GoT producers have to be the ones to sue.

[Frederick22]

So what if they used lot of references with GoT ? So what? Who Cares?

Archovishop Thordan VII: "so.... the dragons are coming"

That doesnt make Heavensward a rip off, doesnt make the story not good.

I like it, was very enjoyable. If they used refences of GoT so be it.

A bad written story and a difference of taste are two different things.

[Yudzster]

shut up and just play the gaame :>