Game of Thrones reference overload (minor spoilers)

[Takfloyd]

FFXIV's localization is very much like the Ivalice titles (Vagrant Story, FF tactics, FFXII). They've used this sort of dialect before, extensively. Trial by Battle or "in the eyes of gods and men" has nothing to do with GoT. They just borrowed elements from the same culture.


The other stuff just seems to be typical tropes of this kind of conflict. It's frigid, something terrible is coming, people stand watch, corrupt highborn, ect ect.

Naturally, they would borrow references from Game of Thrones, as it's highly popular, the same way they snuck a Frozen reference into Shiva. But I think you're just viewing the tropes here a tad too narrowly. Game of thrones is not original in most of these instances at all, you're just ignorant of where they pulled it from.

You assume too much. I am very knowledgeable about past FF games, as well as real and faux-medieval speech patterns and phrases used in historical as well as fictitious writings.

These are not coincidences. None of them are. These passages in the story are deliberately lifted wholesale from Game of Thrones. I knew people would argue against it because people always argue even the dumbest things. I'm just stating the facts though. This thread isn't for debating whether or not the references are a coincidence - but whether or not we have left "clever reference" territory and ventured into straight ripoff.

[Kaedan]

These are not coincidences. None of them are. These passages in the story are deliberately lifted wholesale from Game of Thrones.

You're wrong, sorry Takfloyd. Simply and utterly wrong. Are they coincidences? No, you're right about that. Because they are TROPES. Staples of the genre. Extremely common elements you see in nearly any piece of semi-historical/medieval-like fiction.

[Takfloyd]

You're wrong, sorry Takfloyd. Simply and utterly wrong. Are they coincidences? No, you're right about that. Because they are TROPES. Staples of the genre. Extremely common elements you see in nearly any piece of semi-historical/medieval-like fiction.

Laughable. Don't make a fool of yourself - you clearly aren't familiar with Game of Thrones.

[Kaedan]

Laughable. Don't make a fool of yourself - you clearly aren't familiar with Game of Thrones.

LOL And you're clearly not familiar with the meaning of the word "trope".

[Takfloyd]

LOL And you're clearly not familiar with the meaning of the word "trope".

It is you who need to familiarize yourself with that word, which you obviously just learned from TVTropes last year.

Direct quotes and name references aren't tropes.

[RyuRoots]

It is you who need to familiarize yourself with that word, which you obviously just learned from TVTropes last year.

Direct quotes and name references aren't tropes.

So are you next going to tell us that GoT invented Dragons? Babby's First Grimderp fans always make stuff like this. Are there references? Sure. But first, Dusk Vigil and its position were known LONG before Heavensward came out. And you're seriously having someone being a rank we've also known exists within Ishgard for ages as a "reference"? I'm not gonna break down every point, but the gist is this: some of those are references, but you're being a desperate fanboy if you wanna try to say that EVERYTHING about it is a GoT reference.