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    Quote Originally Posted by Takfloyd View Post
    These are not coincidences. None of them are. These passages in the story are deliberately lifted wholesale from Game of Thrones.
    You're wrong, sorry Takfloyd. Simply and utterly wrong. Are they coincidences? No, you're right about that. Because they are TROPES. Staples of the genre. Extremely common elements you see in nearly any piece of semi-historical/medieval-like fiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    You're wrong, sorry Takfloyd. Simply and utterly wrong. Are they coincidences? No, you're right about that. Because they are TROPES. Staples of the genre. Extremely common elements you see in nearly any piece of semi-historical/medieval-like fiction.
    Laughable. Don't make a fool of yourself - you clearly aren't familiar with Game of Thrones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takfloyd View Post
    Laughable. Don't make a fool of yourself - you clearly aren't familiar with Game of Thrones.
    LOL And you're clearly not familiar with the meaning of the word "trope".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    snip.
    While it's true that the localization could be called similar to the Ivalice titles, I don't think all of the references in the Dusk Vigil is just coincidental at all. Sure, the phrases have been used before, but that doesn't stop it from potentially being taken from GoT. They haven't been afraid to bash a few over our heads before :P A few more references, just to chalk some more up:

    *Tam Tara HM boss attack called "Red Wedding"
    *Levequest called "Storm of Swords"
    *A character named Eddard in the Lancer questline (and an NPC named Neddard in La Noscea)
    *Quest "The Mountain that Strides"
    *Quest name "Taking the Black"
    *Achievement "Stick Them With the Pointy End"
    *The Direwolf mount...and its description (found in a litter with its dead mother)
    *Halloween NPC said "The night is dark and full of delightful terrors"
    *You must say "High as Honor" for an Ixal quest (the phrase of House Arryn)

    The phrase "Seven Hells" is also regularly used. And sure, it can be coincidence, but with so many blatant references I it's not out of the question GoT could be in mind when they're choosing some of the NPC dialogue. It's not the only source, but there is obviously inspiration there and they certainly seem to like drawing from it. Despite my surname, I do think it gets to be a bit too heavy-handed at times :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillo View Post
    wall of text
    I'm just shocked HOW much the english translators referenced it. I'd probably feel the same if it was that extreme (although some things are just your personal perception and have nothing to do with GoT, like "wow, an NPC is called Eddard, an extremely common name, that MUST be a reference!"), but in other languages it isn't. There are some refrences which are fun to find (and make me question why I'm even helping out anyone in Ishgard, considering how everyone seems to still be living in the dark ages there..xD) but that's it.
    Just blame the NA translators for being huge fans of the books/show and dropping a huge bucket of references on you, even when it wasn't neccessary, making the few story-driven ones seem like too much.
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    Who can spot Lady Stark?
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    Ala Mhigo = Winterfell, if the new voice acting is anything to go by.
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    I don't watch GoT personally, so I guess it wont be affecting me. *shrug*

    I honestly don't think I'd care though. References are fun when done right IMO.
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    shut up and just play the gaame :>
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    I like that they use quotes, references and word play from loads of other things.
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