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    materia > raids?

    so I maybe mistaken but from my understanding of materia, crafted gear which was already better than raid gear in the case of +2 and +3 is now getting a substantial buff to make it "comparable" to raid gear in their own words. So.... the entire focus of the game has been shifted away from raids making them pointless? this is not comparable but overwhelming; why go after a verdant shortbow when I can grab a crab bow +3 and stick at least two materia on it? did battle classes and raids really just become obsolete? is the focus on the game now going to be on the bot loving crafters who already have all the gil, battle classes just their materia making slaves, and raids just a cute little challenge to try once and if you fail oh well who cares I already have the best gear back to spamming enter while watching a movie?

    I seriously don't think that's true, please tell me I misunderstood something?
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    Last edited by Anon; 09-18-2011 at 04:35 AM.

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    actually i think a crafted item would be better only with at least 4 materia, not sure thou
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    How I see it would be:

    ~Dungeon/raid/NM gear vastly superior to regular gear but not so much to gear with one Materia attached.
    ~Gear with two or three Materia attached equal or slightly superior to Dungeon/raid/NM gear.
    ~Gear with 5 Materia attached superior in all sense of the word, except to relic weapons/shield.
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    Yeah, and remember that attaching more than one materia on an item can cause it to break, so I don't think we'll be seeing too many HQ weapons with multiple materia on them. People will just be too afraid of the loss.
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    Yea its looking like reward gear is going to be the "Safe" way to get boots to performance while gear augmented via multiple materia will be superior but come at the cost of it being far more risky to create.

    Ie some one walking around with a 5 sloted hq top end weapon will be rare and seen as some one with cahones of steel.

    I'm thinking that one to two materia will be the norm and only people seeking to squeak in every bit of performance out of there gear slots going beyond that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida
    You will not be able to turn powerful items, such as unique/untradeable items obtained from notorious monsters, into materia.
    Unless it's been said some place else, then this is only saying we can't convert R/EX into Materia itself. Where does it say R/EX itself can't be attached to?
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    they said earlier you can't attach materia to untradable items.

    edit: and why do people keep saying crafted gear will only be better with multiple high risk materia??!?! it's already better in case you didn't know.....adding anything more to it is over kill even if its just one materia.....
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    Last edited by Anon; 09-18-2011 at 04:38 AM.

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    it's already better, yes.
    The problem is, the game go on, and the gear too :|| new gear wil have stat designed for this sistem, while old items will be obsolete
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    We don't even know A) What bonuses materia will give, B) what those bonuses will be worth after the abolition of physical levels, C) the time it takes to make a single materia, and D) the success rate of attaching materia to a weapon/item.

    I fail to see the point in worrying if [unknown × unknown ÷ unknown % unknown] will make [pick any dungeon item] obsolete at this point - and to what degree.

    All we know is that they have the potential to be "better".

    Wait and see what we are dealing with before jumping on the DOOM train.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anon View Post
    they said earlier you can't attach materia to untradable items.

    edit: and why do people keep saying crafted gear will only be better with multiple high risk materia??!?! it's already better in case you didn't know.....adding anything more to it is over kill even if its just one materia.....
    They said NM gear, they didn't say ALL rare/ex gear. All the gear from the raids drop from chests, even if you have to kill a boss(NM) to spawn some of them, doesn't necessarily make them NM gear.

    If it is true that it can't be enhanced and crafted gear with materia is the best gear in the game I'm not even going to bother with raids and such, aside from just doing it once to beat it, because it's pointless. This pretty much destroys a good amount, if not all of content for me and others like me. I really hope this isn't the case.

    Still waiting for confirmation on this..
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