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    ofc i did , clerics and infirmity affect lustrate and indomitability negativley while +% healing buffs will not affect them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    ofc i did , clerics and infirmity affect lustrate and indomitability negativley [...]
    I took the liberty of testing this by the way, and you are wrong.




    Background info: Noticed one of the new main story quest monsters give you an Infirmity debuff. As I realized this, I was exposing myself to it and snapping an Embrace and a Lustrate in the same picture. Embrace is only about half as potent as it should be in the picture, whilst Lustrate is a normal, non-crit Lustrate at level 52 and i130.

    Verdict: Lustrate doesn't seem to be affected by buffs or debuffs at the moment. Cleric Stance does affect it as it should, but I think the potency is snapshotted from some arbitrary value (Level? MD? MND?) and applied without any other considerations except Cleric Stance.
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    So what all of this seems to be telling me is we still have a percentage heal that is now effected by whether or not we are in Cleric Stance, NERF!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    So what all of this seems to be telling me is we still have a percentage heal that is now effected by whether or not we are in Cleric Stance, NERF!
    No, what Tranquil / Rin is saying is that for some inexplicable reason, we have an ability-based heal that is based off some parameter (most likely MND because of the MND and INT swap of Cleric Stance) that seems to be arbitrarily unaffected by both positive and negative healing effects.

    The next best test for this is for some SCH to get to 58 and see what their Emergency Tactic Adlos cure for in Cleric Stance and compare to what their Lustrates cure for in the exact same gear. This will tell us if Lustrate is affected by the 20% healing magic reduction of Cleric Stance as well (just for science though, you should never be using Lustrate in Cleric Stance now...)

    @Tranquil / Rin

    Do you happen to recall how exactly that particular Infirmity debuff was worded? Because if it said "Reduces the potency of healing magic" and not "healing effects" it would explain why Lustrate works though it.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 06-20-2015 at 11:15 AM.