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    Player
    Memoriae's Avatar
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    Character
    Ringabel Memoriae
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 82
    Yea, honestly if they want to make them special compared to the other two healers then at least buff and revamp some of the cards so that the thing that makes them unique isn't so pale and unnoticeable.
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    Codek's Avatar
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    Dalek Codex
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    I would be fine with the overall weaker healing output compared to other classes if it was possible to make it up through the use of the cards.

    As it stands right now, the risk is just far to high for the reward this class can get.
    Odd's of getting the card you want after a number of draws:
    1 - 16.67% (0 sec.)
    2 - 30.56% (0 sec w/ shuffle)
    3 - 42.13% (30 sec. w/ shuffle)
    4 - 51.77% (60 sec. w/ shuffle)
    5 - 59.81% (90 sec. w/ shuffle)
    6 - 66.51% (90 sec. w/ shuffle x2)

    2 minutes of preparation in a fight and you still have 1:3 chance of not having the card you want for a specific mechanic. Toss in the desire to have it buffed by royal Road in a desired way and those odds will only go down more. It's just too un-reliable which only stresses more on the class having to rely on it's (somewhat weak) healing output to succeed.

    I rather not be the person every 3rd fight going "Sorry guys, I ran out of mana because I drew too many spires".
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    Always remember the Silver Rule:
    "Treat others as they treat you!" ...or something like that.

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    Kiaris's Avatar
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    Kiaris Moonskar
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Cards should not have been random.
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    Moon Kibbles
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    Tonberry
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    Machinist Lv 60
    One thing though, Synastry is very strong in a 8-player setting (primals so far). Pop it on the tank, Helios the raid and watch his health soar.

    Ewer pairs very well together with Lightspeed, even more so when it's RRed. Without it, your Lightspeed heals are gonna drain you dry quick.

    Celestial Opposition - 150sec CD instant cast with a Holy-sized AOE, stuns for 4 secs with no damage, extends the scholar's buffs for 5secs. If only it extended your allies' buffs too ugh then it'll be a better-tiered CD. One can only hope.

    Also, do you guys remember that SE originally intended for a card in the draw to be +10% damage taken? It was a bad card and you'd have to replace it.
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    Arcana's Avatar
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    Ragnar Sigurdsson
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Aphel View Post
    snip.
    1. Using lightspeed to heal does not make sense. You are nerfing you a 25% while you have to wait 2.5sec GCD to cas another heal. If you have to kite or run while healing its ok, but only in that case.

    2. SE never wanted a bad card. It was always a mistranslation.

    I love this job but i bet we will see some changes in 3.1 patch. I would like to see on next big patch:
    - A %healing potency skill
    - Spear Card affecting casted abilities too.
    - Bole applied on magic damage too
    - 2 x AST stacking aspected buffs (that sux atm)
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    Last edited by Arcana; 06-24-2015 at 01:02 AM.

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    Shamirah's Avatar
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 59
    They have to buff us in the next patch (the one in two weeks).
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    Polaris Sonata
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    All this butthurt about ast srsly , ast is fine the way it is , its hybrid class and it will never ever ever ever be better than its direct counterpart at either shielding/mitigation or healing , by doing that ast will be too strong. Too many ppl hyped about ast and the flashiness of their skills same as drk , you all want the cake and eat it too, but no.
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 59
    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    All this butthurt about ast srsly , ast is fine the way it is , its hybrid class and it will never ever ever ever be better than its direct counterpart at either shielding/mitigation or healing , by doing that ast will be too strong. Too many ppl hyped about ast and the flashiness of their skills same as drk , you all want the cake and eat it too, but no.
    Lol. Please if it is to post stupid thing, don't bother.

    Hybrid class ? how is AST an hybrid class ? Can it dps ? No, a SCH and a WHM do it better. Can it tank ? no.
    Oh you're talking about the cards ? Those random thing that never give you what you need and which are minor at best ? yeah, no. AND Fyi, your fairy has a mass dispell and a party wide haste buff, which is not random.

    Please tell me more about the hybrid class that is AST.

    Did we ask to be better ? No. Did we asked to be ON PAR ? yes.
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    Last edited by Shamirah; 06-24-2015 at 03:08 AM.

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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    With the current trend of tanks speed running these dungeons "non over geared tanks" make it reeaaaaaally hard to keep up.
    7/10 times after all those big pulls i ask for my mp to re charge at boss but they dont care and just pull = me having to heal with only 20-30% mp ish.
    Seriously barely any tanks will wait for u now to recover cuz they expect u to just "magically" recover mp during the fight like a sch. U chug all tht remaining mp while u let ur refresh work = still at 20% mp lol

    Ppl always want to take the easier path = why bring ast if the other healers r more stronger in the current meta of mass pulling/ high aoe burst dmg.

    I'd love to see someone solo heal as ast, even with echo it just seems impossible.
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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    All this butthurt about ast srsly , ast is fine the way it is , its hybrid class and it will never ever ever ever be better than its direct counterpart at either shielding/mitigation or healing , by doing that ast will be too strong. Too many ppl hyped about ast and the flashiness of their skills same as drk , you all want the cake and eat it too, but no.
    We got no cake, all we got was a fork to help other ppl eat the cake at our own expense. Hence the support type.
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