Your thoughts on Astrolgian so far?

[kupokage]

WHM < SCH < AST

In terms of what's fun to play with. WHM has heals, SCH has heals and Eos/Selene and AST has heals and cards. Introduce the Lu Bu of healing jobs and I'll still roll the one I find more enjoyable to play with regardless if it's "harder"to play with endgame.

[Kiaris]

Honestly what AST to me needs, the buffs all need to last 30 seconds.


100% uptime on at least some type of buff. Would go farther in making up for lack of healing.



There is a difference between harder to play and being viable, back when game first came out... I argued the exact same thing between the tanks as here in healers..

Is AST raid viable ?

PLD.. was the only tank 95% of the guilds would touch for coil till SE finally changed WAR.



AST isn't bottom of barrel like WAR once was, not even close, but is it as viable as having a WHM/SCH in new content ?

[jars]

Honestly what AST to me needs, the buffs all need to last 30 seconds.


100% uptime on at least some type of buff. Would go farther in making up for lack of healing.

I don't think this would help because cards do not stack. any sort of duration change would need to allow cards to stack. I think the numbers on the cards are where the problems lie.

[Aphel]

Despite being a little disappointed with AST at the moment, there are some moments in which they shine. Take this one for example:

Tank gets Aspect Benefic regen (18secs) + Aspected Helios regen (30secs) + RRed Bole 15%damage reduction (15secs)

Immediately smack a Time Dilation on him to skyrocket the regen to 33secs (Benefic) 45secs (Helios) 30secs (Bole). It's pretty massive but the major drawback is that it requires a very long set up time and luck. Whereas Scholars just have to bust out 2 lustrates and Whitemages just have to click on Tetragrammaton (700 potency instant heal, +Divine Seal for overkill).

[Kiaris]

Despite being a little disappointed with AST at the moment, there are some moments in which they shine. Take this one for example:

Tank gets Aspect Benefic regen (18secs) + Aspected Helios regen (30secs) + RRed Bole 15%damage reduction (15secs)

Immediately smack a Time Dilation on him to skyrocket the regen to 33secs (Benefic) 45secs (Helios) 30secs (Bole). It's pretty massive but the major drawback is that it requires a very long set up time and luck. Whereas Scholars just have to bust out 2 lustrates and Whitemages just have to click on Tetragrammaton (700 potency instant heal, +Divine Seal for overkill).

Yea it all sounds great on paper. But as you have said..

Id rather Cast Eye for an Eye, Divine seal, Tetra

For AST, when you need those cards... its going to be Ewer.. Re draw.. Spire... Damnit... Tank dead

[Kiaris]

Cards don't need to stack, you use redraw or save the card if you get 2x in a row

Not like anyone would want more than 1 AST ina group anyway.

either way, they need a buff.


Ill be deciding today to

#1 Play my WHM
#2 Play a DPS for the first time (never DPS'd in a mmo besides for abilities from them...... before always tank or heals)
#3 Deal with AST's shortcomings and hope for buffs

[jars]

you would run into overlap issues if you already have a card held. a buff shouldn't invite more problems, I had already thought about if they bumped up the duration or reduced the cd on draw and realized that would happen.

[Mhikail]

Nevermind it does.

As I can see, this job main thing is support.
It's as close as support as we will get.
In raidin' it'll probably be the back up healer
and bring it's utility to everyone else in the team even the other healer.

[Sabeta]

AST is pretty, flashy, and thematically everything I wanted in a healer.

but it's weak. I tried it in a few level 50 dungeons, and although it didn't struggle I can't say that I enjoyed it very much either. I miss being able to fall asleep at the keyboard while Eos handled everything. Quite frankly, AST is severely lacking in the heals department.

[Vlady]

Astrologian is not lacking as a healer. If they make astrologians on par with white mage then why bring a white mage when you can bring a job that has equivelent heal strength and ability to buff an entire party with the myriad of buffs the Astrologian has access.