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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wobble View Post
    I for one will not be doing heal/DPS unless I feel very comfortable with the group and job. And for the one who says that not contributing, did you die? I call that contributing. If you want to say a healer that doesn't DPS in a party is not contributing then I would say that all the BLM, SMN, and any other DPS or tank job that can equip a cure spell and doesn't help heal with their DPS/tanking are also not contributing. Food for thought.
    Problems with that, 1, healing doesn't kill the boss, and 2, heals from classes with low MIND are so ineffective that it's a complete waste of time. The same can not be said for healer's dpsing, as a healer doing 250 dps is going to be considerably more help than a healer who is just standing there doing nothing in downtime.
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    Wobble Wibblewobb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    If DPS and tanks attempting to cast heals helped push the goalpost closer, that analogy would be valid. However, because completion of objectives is dependent on total party DPS, it's almost always not.

    Healers contributing DPS when they can snd should do so is about supporting the party's efforts; dedicated DPS blowing their GCD timers to cast redundant heals is not a benefit to the party. This is why AST will (or should) use their DPS tools as appropriate, especially since they have DoTs without a hit check.
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Problems with that, 1, healing doesn't kill the boss, and 2, heals from classes with low MIND are so ineffective that it's a complete waste of time. The same can not be said for healer's dpsing, as a healer doing 250 dps is going to be considerably more help than a healer who is just standing there doing nothing in downtime.
    Everyone one has their own play style, don't have to like it but we do. All I can say is to each their own and live and let live. This is a game and we are all here for our own fun, enjoyment or relaxation. We also pay the same sub so...
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobble View Post
    Everyone one has their own play style, don't have to like it but we do. All I can say is to each their own and live and let live. This is a game and we are all here for our own fun, enjoyment or relaxation. We also pay the same sub so...
    Yes, that's all more or less true. It's not really the point of the discussion, though; stating why certain gameplay is more optimal than other gameplay isn't the same thing as trying to somehow force players to play differently.

    That being said, we all pay a fee and all have the right to hold a reasonable expectation that others will play the game in good faith. I won't criticize a player for not being amazing when they are clearly trying, but I don't appreciate deliberate laziness detracting from the entertainment for which I, too, am paying.
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