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  1. #41
    Player
    Avatar von ScarecrowJames
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    Mar 2012
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    Pumpkin Village Hidden in the Crows
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    Raccoon Bandit
    World
    Cactuar
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    Astrologe Lv 80
    The swords they wield is already fiction. They to the real man would be incapable to wield. A base ball Bat would have been a better weapon. This is a game where men can jump incredibly high in the air in a heavy suit of armor and cast fireballs/etc. Its fiction.
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  2. #42
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    Avatar von Jonnycbad
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    Seraphus Highwynn
    World
    Gilgamesh
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    Pikenier Lv 100
    Sorry to necro this but I just started playing DRK. They hold it exactly like Cecil does in FF4. Additionally, Dark Passenger is exactly like Cecil's Dark Wave ability in virtually every way.

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  3. #43
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    Avatar von EdwinLi
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    Chloe Li
    World
    Balmung
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    Maschinist Lv 100
    You will have to blame the series Berserker for using this type of sword for this type of sword stance.

    Dark Knight in FF14 is partly inspired by Gut from Berserker
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  4. #44
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    Avatar von Shurrikhan
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    Tani Shirai
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Mönch Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Nektulos-Tuor Beitrag anzeigen
    I don't know, when your fighting for your life its usually better to pick a stance that doesn't look like when someone hits your sword its going to break your wrist.
    Better to take the impact with a palm supporting than letting it just carry through, and that stance can take quite an arm-crushing hit without breaking one's wrists.

    The guard being used is akin to a hangen / hanging guard or an offset Ox guard, probably the best general stance one has against swords, staves, axes, clubs, or whatever, wherever there may be a strong downwards strike or flurry of downward blows. (Against another sword, or any weapon with similar speed ad reach, it would be raised further to actually protect the head and likely aimed more pointedly at the opponent's head or upper chest; altogether this particular variant looks very lazy, as if baiting more than blocking.) It mostly looks silly simply because it's a counter-guard, usually paired with the dodge, where the downward force of the parried attack accelerates your own circling following strike. The problem is, we don't have counters in this game. Better that, though, than something that would require winding to be of any use, such as cloud's middle guard (where the countering strike itself then looks almost exactly like the DRK guard as you offset the attack and stab or rising cut through).

    Apart from that bit of realism, to take as you like, you can blame Cecil, as mentioned above.

    @ErikMynhier awesome vid. I personally tend to open in Iron Door or Middle Guard, and use Ox only transitionally unless feinting, but I have fought against quite a few people who can actually make a very, very effective use of hanging out in Ox. They're usually larger, slower-footed, but very quick with thwarting and hewing strikes. By just setting themselves deep and turning frequently but naturally if you circle, it often feels like trying to get through a steel wall rather than an actual sword. Springier opponents, however, I've noticed tend to prefer to hang out in more comfortable, low-tell stances like middle or roof. Sorry, rant.
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    Geändert von Shurrikhan (07.01.16 um 15:29 Uhr)

  5. #45
    Player Avatar von ErikMynhier
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    Arizona
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    Erik Mynhier
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
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  6. #46
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    Avatar von Reila_Circus
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    Reila Circus
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dunkelritter Lv 70
    Zitat Zitat von EdwinLi Beitrag anzeigen
    You will have to blame the series Berserker for using this type of sword for this type of sword stance.

    Dark Knight in FF14 is partly inspired by Gut from Berserker
    The inspirations from Berserk pretty much are restricted to the Job story.
    Heres a bit of an example to those who beat the level 30-50 DRK quests.


    Other than that, Guts has never really used that stance except on certain promo art. As Johnnycbad has pointed out, it's based on Cecils stance more than anything.
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    Geändert von Reila_Circus (07.01.16 um 15:40 Uhr)
    Born to lose, Live to win.

    RIP Ian "Lemmy" Kilmister

  7. #47
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    Avatar von BHGlobbd
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    Mar 2015
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    Othard
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    Franz D'epinay
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Schwarzmagier Lv 51
    OP does nothing but make complaint threads, I literally see at least one every two days.
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  8. #48
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    Avatar von basketofseals
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    Verrine Mercer
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 86
    Zitat Zitat von myahele Beitrag anzeigen
    Well FF14's NIN is inspired by Naruto
    Ninja tropes existed waaaaaaaay before Naruto.
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  9. #49
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    Avatar von Granyala
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    Sep 2014
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
    World
    Cerberus
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    Weißmagier Lv 100
    DRK doesn't even look half as awkward as the WHM staff holding pose which screams "I don't know WTF I am supposed to do with this thing ... am I at least holding it right?"
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  10. #50
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    Avatar von Toguro
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    Character
    Vinny Falcone
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pikenier Lv 60
    For people who haven't seen the stance.



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