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  1. #1
    Player
    Nevaldus's Avatar
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    Dark Temptations
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60

    WHM Stoneskin vs SCH Galvanize 3.0

    "- Stoneskin
    Damage absorb from 18% HP to 10% HP
    - Quick Stoneskin
    Replaces Graniteskin
    Lowers Stoneskin cast time to 2.5s
    - Stoneskin II
    Damage absorb from 18% HP to 10% HP"


    Found this on reddit...now, yes it has been nerfed, meaning a 10k health tank will only have 1000hp SS instead of a 1800hp ss , it's still nice, and with the faster recast time it can be put on more often, but the MP cost seems to be the same, meaning WHM's would have to dip into their mana pool quite a bit if they like spamming SS.

    As we know with SCH's, if their aldoquiom critical heal "When critical HP is restored, damage nullification is doubled." meaning, right now at the end of ARR , my SCH was doing between 3200 - 3800 critical Aldoqiums, meaning a 6400 - 7600 HP Shield. This is HUGE in comparison.

    However what do you guys think? was the SS nerf really needed? and with these changes, are players going to want stoneskin still?
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    RazeLandale's Avatar
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    Raze Landale
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I don't think a galvanize comparison is fair. That's scholars thing.

    But what IS fair I think is stoneskin vs...stoneskin. Since I can use that on sch. And so can ast. But the big stoneskins were whms thing. And now they don't have that for what seems like no real reason.
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  3. #3
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    MysteryNotes's Avatar
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    Alexis Windermere
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    Tonberry
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    When you factor in that SCH can use Galvanize *and* stoneskin vs WHM's lone crappy stoneskin... :|
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    Zata'ra Dakwhil
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    Jenova
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryNotes View Post
    When you factor in that SCH can use Galvanize *and* stoneskin vs WHM's Raw Heals/HoTs *and* stoneskin
    fixed that for you.
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  5. #5
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    SCH complained that their protect was inferior to WHM...
    SCH complained that their stoneskin was inferior to WHM...

    What do we WHM get? We lose exclusivities and get nerfed... SCH get rewarded...
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  6. #6
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    wait till everyone hears about pld's aoe stoneskin that is spammable for 30 seconds. (how long the buff works)
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  7. #7
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    Alexis Windermere
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    Tonberry
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelinaus View Post
    fixed that for you.
    If you want to put that in, don't forget to mention the fairy that heals regardless of cleric stance that has AOE esuna now too.
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  8. #8
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    Shai's Avatar
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    Shai Hulud
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 60
    This thread is ridiculous.
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  9. #9
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    yeah shame that the shield healer job makes better shield
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    whm lose all their exclusives. even a paladin can now cast proshell. and what did we get? 0,5 faster cast for stoneskin? that's laughable. okay, whm still has the best aoe heal but is that enogh compared to AST? i don't think so...
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