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    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    You mean shot dead when it was Tanaka who was put in charge? LAWL
    Tanaka's done too much for Final Fantasy to be shown as much disrespect as he has been for being out of touch with MMOs. Personally, I think that's his only real flaw; that his methods didn't evolve as fast as online gaming did. Yoshi-P is more in touch with what an MMO needs, but that fact extends only to that reality, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Tanaka's done too much for Final Fantasy to be shown as much disrespect as he has been for being out of touch with MMOs. Personally, I think that's his only real flaw; that his methods didn't evolve as fast as online gaming did. Yoshi-P is more in touch with what an MMO needs, but that fact extends only to that reality, imho.
    TBH I don't blame him. I know he was a visionary, but honestly he is out of touch with todays MMO market. I blame Wada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    TBH I don't blame him. I know he was a visionary, but honestly he is out of touch with todays MMO market. I blame Wada.
    Do you remember when Wada said that FFXIV was going to "Dethrone World of Warcraft?" lol -- I don't think you're wrong in your finger pointing by any means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Do you remember when Wada said that FFXIV was going to "Dethrone World of Warcraft?" lol -- I don't think you're wrong in your finger pointing by any means.
    I face palmed when he stated that. Even if XIV had a successful launch, it wouldn't have come close enough to dethrone WoW. Nothing can except maybe another Blizzard MMO can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    I face palmed when he stated that. Even if XIV had a successful launch, it wouldn't have come close enought to dethrone WoW. Nothing can except maybe another Blizzard MMO.
    It revealed his lack of comprehension to say it that way at all. WOW is an MMO that fulfills the desires of people who prefer that style of MMO. FF Online provides an entirely different experience, and the group of people who want that particular experience are outnumbered by the people who want the experience provided by WOW. It's as simple as that.

    Saying that Final Fantasy Online could "dethrone" WoW is like saying that Cheezits will dethrone the meat food group. It not only sounds entirely unrealistic, but it doesn't make any godsdamned sense.

    EDIT: And if Wada was a genius, he wouldn't have told his people to release a game that was only 20% completed onto the shelves because people will pay for it if it says Final Fantasy on the cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    It revealed his lack of comprehension to say it that way at all. WOW is an MMO that fulfills the desires of people who prefer that style of MMO. FF Online provides an entirely different experience, and the group of people who want that particular experience are outnumbered by the people who want the experience provided by WOW. It's as simple as that.

    Saying that Final Fantasy Online could "dethrone" WoW is like saying that Cheezits will dethrone the meat food group. It not only sounds entirely unrealistic, but it doesn't make any godsdamned sense.
    FFXIV is becoming a WoW clone now though.

    I guess Wada is pulling the strings again.

    That's why he hand-picked Yoshi to begin with.

    "I want one young go-getter to make this game into WoW as fast as possible! Any volunteers?"
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    I find it pretty shortsighted to call anything a [X]Clone. In the world of MMOs, we're all playing Dungeons & Dragons, but we're all playing with radically different DMs who are varying levels of competent in what their friend group finds "Fun."

    If WoW has good things to offer the future of MMOs, those traits should live on -- hopefully the WoW we take in will replace the aspects of FFXI that made it a rather masochistic addiction at times.

    I doubt we'll ever move too too far out of the sandbox though. When I see a Skill Tree, I'll give you your silver for a wise prediction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    It revealed his lack of comprehension to say it that way at all. WOW is an MMO that fulfills the desires of people who prefer that style of MMO. FF Online provides an entirely different experience, and the group of people who want that particular experience are outnumbered by the people who want the experience provided by WOW. It's as simple as that.

    Saying that Final Fantasy Online could "dethrone" WoW is like saying that Cheezits will dethrone the meat group. It not only sounds entirely unrealistic, but it doesn't make any godsdamned sense.
    I think one of the other general issues, is that marketing should never run a project in development. The situation here perfectly fits that scenario. They knew MMOs are cash cows from prior experience and wanted the quick way to that cash flow. I'm sure that Tanaka and others in charge of the project did not want to release with the state the game was in. That's part of why I don't entirely fault him here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Do you remember when Wada said that FFXIV was going to "Dethrone World of Warcraft?" lol -- I don't think you're wrong in your finger pointing by any means.
    Yoichi Wada is a genius in finances and business, but retarded in video game design. Wada should never have had as much pull as he did on the title, but hey that's one of the luxuries of being president of Square Enix, you have the ability to over step your boundaries...
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