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  1. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naixatloz View Post
    Let me be clear that I do not like Seymour. I do not like or respect his opinions one bit. There is a part of me that is delighted to know that there are people who are personally annoyed by how I choose to dress my characters. It tickles me that people are upset by me minding my business.

    But like, he's still a person? I used to be an awful person with awful opinions, and it hurt a lot when people dogpiled me and did nothing to make me want to become a better person. It just made me angrier. Spending my time insulting people I didn't like made me angrier too, because that was just me wallowing in negativity. You accomplish nothing positive by harassing someone.
    Well yeah, it's true, this wouldn't be okay if it mattered and real harassment would be pretty messed up to be on the receiving end of. But at the same time, does anyone actually care about what happens on a game/forum?
    Like, I know I'll get banned and just go back to whatever I was doing, as I'm sure Mr. Conviction Catboy will also do. Nobody's taking this seriously and that's the fun of it.
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  2. #232
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    So essentially it voted itself the best?
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  3. #233
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    Remish's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GucciVerm View Post
    Well yeah, it's true, this wouldn't be okay if it mattered and real harassment would be pretty messed up to be on the receiving end of. But at the same time, does anyone actually care about what happens on a game/forum?
    Like, I know I'll get banned and just go back to whatever I was doing, as I'm sure Mr. Conviction Catboy will also do. Nobody's taking this seriously and that's the fun of it.
    So let me get this straight.

    You don't actually care about the topics being discussed. You're harassing people because you can and you find the harassment fun?
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    Last edited by Remish; 02-01-2022 at 06:13 AM.

  4. #234
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    Messing up my opener.
    Accidentally triple weaving during my burst window when I need to mitigate.
    Messing up a mechanic and taking a damage down.
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  5. #235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remish View Post
    So let me get this straight.

    You don't actually care about the topics being discussed. You're harassing people because can and you find the harassment fun?
    The topic has already long devolved into "Bad Glam Guy and White Knight Squad vs Random Twitter Dickheads", so yeah it's hard to care. But well, my first response was still pretty honest, if that matters so much to ya.
    I do 'cringe' when people act like that. I don't go around putting people down unprovoked, but you gotta be able to take what you dish out, and this is a prime example of that.
    Like c'mon man, y'all defending a guy who unironically refers to women as "females". If something's 'cringe', as little meaning as this word has nowadays, it's that.
    Satisfied?
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  6. #236
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Pocket Prince
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    So essentially it voted itself the best?
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  7. #237
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    Also it's funny to see him going from "females shouldn't do this or that! >:C" to "aw thank you but that's your opinion uwu", a 180º if I've ever seen one.
    It's almost like both sides of the initial conflict realized how literally nothing said here matters and stopped taking it seriously! As it should be!

    Addendum on a real talk note: there's also no 'harassment' going on. It's about as bad as someone saying mean things to you in a voice chat or something. I don't see any legitimate death threats, doxxing, nobody seeking him out on the street to beat him up or something. No continuous interference on everyday presence in one way or another. That's what harassment is.
    At the end of the day, I'm sitting here taking the piss out of people who take themselves way too seriously, and you're engaging me back to make yourself feel better, in a forum where everyone is anonymous and only represented by a videogame character, and the only consequences are wasted time and likes.
    If you think anything here matters or will affect people, not sure what to say!
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  8. #238
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    CeruleanArc's Avatar
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    Joan Wolf
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    (Continued from https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5831713 )

    So I hope this explains a little bit about the reaction you're getting. The reaction has been markedly worse because you have stood your ground so shamelessly. If someone actually does come and find you in-game to harass you, though, please report them, because two wrongs never make a right. (Ergo, my apology for making fun of your glam.) If one day you're able to learn from this experience--I really hope you can--then the future will be bright for you, and people will eventually forget all about this. And you don't have to change a thing about your character, name, or account.

    You'll be told that you have the right to your own opinion, but you can't go on stage at the Republican National Convention and talk shit about God, Jesus, or Trump without expecting to be beaten up before you get to your car. And you can't police people's (especially not women's) clothing and look in a progressive space. Just like you can't call gay people the f-word or mistreat someone because their character has dark skin. In truth, none of us have the right to have every opinion that exists because opinions lead to ideas, and ideas lead to actions. And in human history, there are countless of examples of good people engaging in really, really bad actions for reasons they thought were really good at the time. Having lived through the 20th-century, we're justifiably wary of certain opinions and any mentality that pretends that bad ones should have no consequences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gullis View Post
    It amuses me how many people are butthurt at seymores post. His opinion is just that. His opinion, and he has every right to have it. People who personally attack him are way worse
    Who gives him that right?

    Why do the people who disagree with him not have the same right?

    I find it kind of amusing when people regurgitate culturally-specific norms and idioms like they're universal rules that apply to all species in the universe at all times. Amusing, but in like a tragic way. Kind of like the time I got into a car accident with this guy who ran a stop light and I broke my hand without it having impacted anything. Like, wtf, hand? You broke because you got nervous or something? (It was probably the strength with which I held onto the wheel to keep from being moved by the force of the accident, but still. Weird, and lol, but also ow, and sad face.)
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  9. #239
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    Saw this thread posted on twitter, Reddit, and linked in like 6 different discords
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  10. #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour_Rainecourt View Post
    Yellow forever!
    On the matter of yellow, I must wholeheartedly agree. And so does my bun alt. (More leg than you say you like, but I think we've established that I don't care about that. )

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