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    Player papichulo123's Avatar
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    Frederick Chronos
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 70

    fracture for a paladin?

    would it be a dps gain or not?
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Only worth it when FoF is up.
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    Carstien's Avatar
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    Character
    Richter Cade
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Dps gain massive TP loss. 80 TP doesn't seem worth it for the untraited version
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    VargasVermillion's Avatar
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    Val Vermillion
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    I'd only use it constantly in small fights or on tank swaps otherwise it's a tp waster.
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    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    Silver Tiger
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    in most points not worth using because a tank that runs out of tp is kind of useless especially if there's a tone of mobs and you didn't recharge your mp to flash FB+RB.
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    Syfer22's Avatar
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    Leon Harte
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Even if PLDs have Flash as an MP emnity generator, they still care about keeping their TP reserves up (which is another reason why people don't just spam Shield Lob all day). Remember: If you're out of TP you won't be able to 1-2-3 very well.
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    It is a DPS gain as long as you aren't running out of TP.

    As MT you should be able to use it a lot due to being able to Shield Swipe for TP recovery.

    As OT you should use it a bit just to break up your RoH combo.
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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Character
    Gunsa Cabalabob
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    I use it twice during fight or flight and that's all. It is actually one of the stronger moves PLD has access to. Being 220 potency at full duration it's stronger than shield swipe, fast blade and savage blade, although much costlier. Weaker than rage of halone, spirits within and circle of scorn.
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    Character
    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Fracture: 220 total potency. 100 slashing potency, 120 potency DoT
    PLD 123: 150 slashing + 200 slashing + 260 slashing = 610 slashing potency, or 203.33 average per GCD

    With Storm's Eye up, PLD's RoH combo is raised to approximately 225 potency per GCD. Also with Storm's Eye up, Fracture is raised to approximately 231 potency per GCD.

    The difference is very small and certainly doesn't warrant regular use due to its TP cost. To use it or not during FoF is tricky ... if, say, you know you're going to get exactly 4 combos in your FoF, as you should without Selene, it's probably a DPS loss to use it since you're losing a RoH buffed in exchange for a Fracture buffed. If you have very high SS (for some reason) or Selene's buff active, and it'd turn into something where your final attack in FoF will be a Fast Blade, sure, go for it, you'll have a very realistic gain.
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    Kuurei's Avatar
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    Character
    Kurei Hitaka
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Doesn't feel like Fracture helps me as much on PLD as it does on DPS classes, and looking @ Sleigh's post, this is almost statistically correct too.
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