[dev1072] Bringing back the other stats?

[Rokien]

Yeah and the more complex and hard to balance all gear and stats become. Let's keep it simple and have them perfect that instead of adding more needless variables. Complexity is not the answer, especially since we barely have a grasp of how the current stats work.

They're able to make quite a wide variety of gear with the stats that exist as it is. There's actually gear with stats that do not exist within the confines of our attribute sheet such as the enhanced skill effects, Store TP, Regen and Refresh.

Simple and dumb? Simple is not a good thing all the time, especially in a video game. I want a very depth system with tons of choices.

[Arcell]

Simple and dumb? Simple is not a good thing all the time, especially in a video game. I want a very depth system with tons of choices.

Simple and easy to balance. Things like luck, charisma, agility, etc... are all complex and, to be completely honest, redundant with how stats are now. I think we've got enough stats to worry about as it stands, we don't need to make it needlessly complex for the sake of complexity. There's no need for all those stats.

Not to mention, as I said and you ignored, there are stats on gear that are not on the attribute sheet. We've got enough as it stands.

Simple systems allow the devs to more easily balance content, gear, equations. In doing so they are able to more quickly create and implement said content. Needless complexity draws that process out a lot more. The more variables there are to consider, the harder it is to really create a balanced piece of content.

[Rokien]

Simple and easy to balance. Things like luck, charisma, agility, etc... are all complex and, to be completely honest, redundant with how stats are now. I think we've got enough stats to worry about as it stands, we don't need to make it needlessly complex for the sake of complexity. There's no need for all those stats.

Not to mention, as I said and you ignored, there are stats on gear that are not on the attribute sheet. We've got enough as it stands.

Simple systems allow the devs to more easily balance content, gear, equations. In doing so they are able to more quickly create and implement said content. Needless complexity draws that process out a lot more. The more variables there are to consider, the harder it is to really create a balanced piece of content.

Oh ya, because like the only stats that really effect me now are str and pie...... sooo amazing -.- Have to worry soo much about everything else.

[Sephrick]

Oh ya, because like the only stats that really effect me now are str and pie...... sooo amazing -.- Have to worry soo much about everything else.

Have you balanced all that str and pie with acc and atk? Are you able to take a hit or are just a glass canon?

And what's so in-depth about having another stat in the mix?

This is just like your longevity thread. There's plenty in the game but you want things a specific way that usually comes back to "please make it be October 2010 again."

Quantity is not a requisite of depth.

[Rokien]

Have you balanced all that str and pie with acc and atk? Are you able to take a hit or are just a glass canon?

And what's so in-depth about having another stat in the mix?

This is just like your longevity thread. There's plenty in the game but you want things a specific way that usually comes back to "please make it be October 2010 again."

Quantity is not a requisite of depth.

I hardly miss, why do I need acc. we hardly miss. Attack? I have ifrits harpoon gives me max dmg already with 0 cloths on.

[Arcell]

I hardly miss, why do I need acc. we hardly miss. Attack? I have ifrits harpoon gives me max dmg already with 0 cloths on.

Yeah, you clearly have absolutely no idea how stats actually work if you think you're getting the highest damage output possible with just the harpoon. Wow. Just wow.

Edit:
So let me fill you in on the most basic of basics:

You see those 6 main stats? Those stats alone don't determine everything and in fact they govern other sub-stats like accuracy, attack power, enfeebling effect potency, magic evasion and evasion. Not only that but some classes have special modifiers for certain stats that affect their auto-attack & weapon skill damage, among other factors.

[Felis]

I hardly miss, why do I need acc. we hardly miss.

Never played MRD?

[Masamune1004]

I hardly miss, why do I need acc. we hardly miss. Attack? I have ifrits harpoon gives me max dmg already with 0 cloths on.

You're asking for more stats to have a more in-depth system, yet from this it's obvious you don't even understand how the current stats work. I can't find the words to describe how dumb that is.

[Rokien]

You're asking for more stats to have a more in-depth system, yet from this it's obvious you don't even understand how the current stats work. I can't find the words to describe how dumb that is.

They don't work, that's how well they work, I know perfectly on how they work.

When they fix stats more they should throw in more.

[Wolfie]

You're asking for more stats to have a more in-depth system, yet from this it's obvious you don't even understand how the current stats work. I can't find the words to describe how dumb that is.

'Round these parts we have a word for that: Rokien.