Lustrate nerf

[amihavingfunyet]

I don't think SCH got any nerfs, but some people must see it as nerfs or we wouldn't have a "Lustrate nerf" thread. As far as I know those are the only two abilities that changed.

[DarkmoonVael]

The change in lustrate is really not a nerf per se, but what it does indicate is a (deliberate?) move by the devs to make sch dps'ing in a raid more difficult. Lustrate is now significantly more powerful when used on any non-tank class, effected by healing buffs, can crit. It seems to be more of a side move than a nerf to me.

Overall, there seems to be (on paper anyway) a shift in the raid meta when it comes to healing. It seems to be the case that healing dps in a raid is being made more difficult and/or costly to me, with assize being an outlier rather than the norm. Sch seems to be shifted toward a more dedicated healer with built in mitigation rather than the stance dancing lunatic it has been for quite a while with all the bells and whistles it is still retaining vis-a-vis healing.

[Kabzy]

Fey Glow and Fey Light got merged into one skill called Fey Wind, which grants 3% haste (Skillspeed, Speelspeed and AA delay) for 30s on a 60s CD. You still get the same uptime as with the old skills, but have a reduced potency.

Just putting it out there but we don't necessarily know if it's a reduced potency. Chances are it probably is, because Selene got an AoE Esuna as well, but until we actually see the changes to SkSp/SpSp we can only speculate how much 3% attack speed reduction contributes.

[ckc22]

I'm probably quitting the job and healing in general because of the changes to whm and sch and the addition of ast.

[Eloah]

I'm probably quitting the job and healing in general because of the changes to whm and sch and the addition of ast.

Yeah, SE is really shoe-horning innthe whole, Healers shouldn't DPS idea. WHY SQUARE, WHY!?

[Parapluies]

I'm probably quitting the job and healing in general because of the changes to whm and sch and the addition of ast.

Yeah, bad healers and whinners should quit. Seriously O/

[Viviza]

Yeah, SE is really shoe-horning innthe whole, Healers shouldn't DPS idea. WHY SQUARE, WHY!?

Are they? I haven't seen any changes that suggest this. As someone who mains white mage, I see a Holy change that is roughly in parity with Flare, and two new AOE DPS spells, one of which I'll use even if I'm full-time healing because it will restore mana. From a scholar perspective, good points are being made about lustrate being a sidegrade rather than a nerf, and the point of clerics stance still remains that you trade off healing capability for DPS while up.

It seems to me that people are just, well, reacting. They see unfamiliar changes and assume that these changes are bad.

[Cynfael]

Are they? I haven't seen any changes that suggest this. As someone who mains white mage, I see a Holy change that is roughly in parity with Flare, and two new AOE DPS spells, one of which I'll use even if I'm full-time healing because it will restore mana. From a scholar perspective, good points are being made about lustrate being a sidegrade rather than a nerf, and the point of clerics stance still remains that you trade off healing capability for DPS while up.

It seems to me that people are just, well, reacting. They see unfamiliar changes and assume that these changes are bad.

Pretty much. As a SCH main, I'm confident that the change to Lustrate won't hurt my off-DPS game in the slightest. Only those who relied too heavily on Lustrate to maintain CS will suffer.

[Farrell]

And this is why Scholar is the least skilled healer IMO. And people talk about Scholar being harder than WHM lel, can't even be bothered to Stance Dance

You are either bitter or ignorant

[Lyzern]

You are either bitter or ignorant

I've had my share of people telling me WHM takes no skill when Scholars can steamroll content without effort because they have their life made so much easier with Lustrate, pet skills, lack of accuracy needed on their damage spells and almost infinite mana pool. The difference between making a mistake as a WHM and as a SCH is huge, WHMs simply can't afford making mistakes and they must adapt to any situation they're presented with. SCHs could always rely on their emergency lustrate, their pet to make things easy peasy and their mana pool to raise people without bother.

So yeah, maybe I'm bitter, but I'm not ignorant.