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    Holy Nerf is a Net Buff

    Assumptions: 9 mobs attacked, with them staying alive long enough for 7 holy casts (which is 6 holy + 1 Aero III), mobs stay alive long enough for full duration of Aero III (which is 24 seconds, not unreasonable).

    Old WHM AoE: Holy(200 * 9) * 7 = 12600 Potency
    New WHM AoE (Holy((200 + 180 + 160 + 140 + 120 + (100 * 4)) * 6) + Assize(300 * 9) + Aero III(370 * 9)) = 13230 Potency

    Obviously you can napkin math this out with however many mobs or for however many casts but new WHM AoE wins out over old WHM AoE pretty clearly.

    Edit: Even at 20 mobs it's like 28000 vs 27200 which is still a pretty small nerf, and we're never going to be able to fight 20 mobs at once ever again with square enix's new dungeon layout. And for a 20 mob pull, if you can get out 7 holy casts, then I salute you sir.
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    Last edited by nyttyn; 06-18-2015 at 12:34 PM.

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    And you couldn't post this is the larger thread why?
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    Because it's a thread that was made on an incorrect assumption, and is currently so saturated with posts that are mere complaints, snide comments, or praises of 'WHM AOE nerfs' that this would be quickly buried and read by nobody.

    Hopefully by making its own thread, people actually get a chance to see the numbers, and see that this is actually a net buff up to about 18 mobs.
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    Thanks, to the point and needed it.
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    Where is this other thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyttyn View Post
    Edit: Even at 20 mobs it's like 28000 vs 27200 which is still a pretty small nerf, and we're never going to be able to fight 20 mobs at once ever again with square enix's new dungeon layout. And for a 20 mob pull, if you can get out 7 holy casts, then I salute you sir.
    I was under the impression that it caps out at 16 mobs at a time for AoE's. So for a rotation like that, is it going to be a nerf at all?
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    good numbers, but isn't assize on a 90 second cooldown?
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