Holy and Flare diminishing returns nerf

[Malevicton]

That was a mistake I soon noticed :P and quickly edited my post, which just further proves how insane triple Flare is

It's absolutely insane and needed a nerf, but I wish they'd been a bit more creative about it, or just straight up renamed it to chain lightning or something. I feel like they took all the super-fun "flariness" out of it It was just so damn satisfying to finish up a super long cast and watch everything explode into smithereens!

All the opportunities for rebalance that an xpac brings and the best they can do is smack away at it with the nerf hammer

[Odett]

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Honestly the main reason it doesn't bother me is because I'm not a fan of AoE. Mass chain pulling reduces my rotation to Fire 2 spam and Flare, or Doom Spike, or Death Blossom+ Katon or Doton depending on the situation, or Holy (and so on), and anything to discourage that is a welcome addition by me, because that's boring as hell. It's one of the reasons why I let out a sigh when I queue up as a SCH for something and have to spend my time constantly healing a tank that chain pulls and doesn't use cooldowns (I don't refuse to do this, of course, that's my job as a healer), but I could be helping a hell of a lot more if you pulled a little less and let me DPS to make things go faster.

[Malevicton]

Honestly the main reason it doesn't bother me is because I'm not a fan of AoE. Mass chain pulling reduces my rotation to Fire 2 spam and Flare, or Doom Spike, or Death Blossom+ Katon or Doton depending on the situation, or Holy (and so on), and anything to discourage that is a welcome addition by me, because that's boring as hell. It's one of the reasons why I let out a sigh when I queue up as a SCH for something and have to spend my time constantly healing a tank that chain pulls and doesn't use cooldowns (I don't refuse to do this, of course, that's my job as a healer), but I could be helping a hell of a lot more if you pulled a little less and let me DPS to make things go faster.

you do know this isnt going to keep people from mass pulling, right? You also realize that even with the dps afforded by a sch using smaller pulls doesn't make up for the time gained by AoEing? Also that you not being able to aoe is contingent on the tank not using cooldowns because a sch can shadowflare+full dots+bane even on large pulls (well that might not be true anymore with the lustrate changes, but has been true up until now)?

[Odett]

you do know this isnt going to keep people from mass pulling, right? You also realize that even with the dps afforded by a sch using smaller pulls doesn't make up for the time gained by AoEing? Also that you not being able to aoe is contingent on the tank not using cooldowns because a sch can shadowflare+full dots+bane even on large pulls (well that might not be true anymore with the lustrate changes, but has been true up until now)?

Yeah, I know, I just don't like having my rotation simplified. Being able to AoE is entirely contingent on a tank's ability to manage their cooldowns, though, and that's where I'll disagree with you. Due to swiftcast not always being available, I sometimes find myself cancelling my Shadowflare in order to panic Lustrate (which equals a lost Bane) because the tank's HP is spiking that bad, which would not have happened if they had used Rampart, or Sentinel, or Vengeance, or Bloodbath under Unchained/+Berserk, and so on. Your ability to not only initiate, but more importantly, maintain DPS as a healer is entirely contingent on your tank's cooldown management.

This also takes group composition into account, of course, where you have to make sure that non-magic users don't get TP-starved because the group couldn't AoE something fast enough.