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  1. #1571
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    After some practice, this is my rotation:

    https://video-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hv...bc&oe=55EE540F
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  2. #1572
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I've always used BoTD before chaos thrust and I see in your opener it was changed from that to now used before diembowel. What difference does that make?
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  3. #1573
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    The biggest change I notice is it allows me a clear and definite time to use my potion, since it's difficult to weave it with anything else, and it gives the potion enough time to affect my 4th combo.
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  4. #1574
    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidSwordz View Post
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    It's up in the OP and in the image I linked one page back. As Dual said, it opens a space for Potion and is the optimal way to perform the opener. Every other time you should use BotD before CT or FT. Or, if you're NOT using Potions, just use HT>BL+B4B>ID>IR>Dis>BotD>CT>continue as usual for the optimal no-potion way to do it as far as I've seen/played with. You theoretically *can* put PS with BotD there and Jump after CT but it requires some pretty ace timing and ping to pull it off without delaying your FaC/WT GCD or losing potency. It's doable, just harder than it needs to be.

    Also, Dual, your new link isn't working for me. D:
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  5. #1575
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...&ref=bookmarks

    Maybe this one will work? Fb is weird with off site sharing lol

    One question I have is, I notice that by combo 4 when I use GK I only have 11 or so seconds to finish my fifth combo, cutting it really close where the OP says I should have 3 to 4 seconds to spare. I no longer have that macro and my skillspeed is 635, any idea why I'm cutting it that close?
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    Last edited by Dualgunner; 09-08-2015 at 04:43 PM.

  6. #1576
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    You do let your GCD get delayed quite a bit, particularly when you are using abilities (oGCD) in between your weaponskills (GCD). Forget about Geirskogul optimization for the moment. The GCD should always be rolling. Weaponskills account for an order of magnitude more DPS than any individual attack ability does. Delaying the GCD by half a second loses you more than twice as much potency/time as delaying Jump by 2.5 seconds.

    Buff abilities might be an exception, but then it gets more complicated.

    I've seen plenty of dragoons, even ones who should know way way better, including myself, mess this up. But in your footage it's a persistent problem and I'd suggest ironing that out.
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  7. #1577
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    I'll see what I can do to expedite the process. I had some ideas but maintenance is killing it for me lol

    Thanks for the critique ^_^
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  8. #1578
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Hmm, I'll watch Dualgunner's video when I get home.

    Are you having high ping constantly?

    Because that's what killed my GCD/Weaving part .

    Also yes, basically what others have said, you need to keep the GCDs rolling and always rolling unless mechanics tell you not to.
    GSK optimization comes second, as the DPS increase from utilizing 3 GSK per minute isn't on par with optimizing the GCDs rotation.
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  9. #1579
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Trying to push BfB and Battle Litany between the first two feels the slowest and sometimes BfB won't go off even though I hit it. I don't feel any real latency but I always seem to either be too slow for the clock or abilities refuse to go off D:
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  10. #1580
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    Ninjah2r's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    Aside from missing that re-up of BotD at one point, it looks pretty good to me. A couple things to note is that your GCD is slow. If you rewatch the opening, most of your GCDs are delayed quite a lot, either due to the way you're pressing buttons or latency or what have you, they're slow. That's a big thing, especially as of 3.0. You might be able to pull off the 2 gsk per b4b at your SS and could just be missing it due to GCD lag on your end.
    Yeah I noticed, the lag(120ms)/2.42 gcd atm is killing me and making me go nuts lmao. I'm mashing buttons asap to get them activated as fast as they can :C
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