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    Dervy's Avatar
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucael_Shikaree View Post
    Probably I'm missing something here. Did you usually manage to get a GK after the second and third combo without losing BotD? Because in my experience this was nearly impossibile, as a rule I always used the second GK after FT of 4th segment (combo).
    Think about it this way. Each line has two combos.

    Each "Combo" is one of your 4-stage combos. So Combo 1 = your first IDC4. Combo 2 your first TTT4. Combo 3 = your second IDC4. Combo 4 = your second TTT4.
    So what you just quoted, is 4 combos in total. You're skipping combo 3. You can use your first GK whenever, where ever, you like on the first line. So to answer your question, no, it will not fall off, as you're stacking up a lot more BotD time by skipping GK on the 3rd combo (second IDC4), granting you an additional 3s breathing room.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoraKenkech View Post
    Is it even matter if I use gk not like this

    HT - ID - [BOTD] - DI - CT - 4TH - PH - TT - VP - FT - [GK] - 4TH
    --- DO NOT USE GEIRSKOGUL HERE
    HT - ||| ID - DI - CT - 4TH - PH ||| - TT - VP - FT - 4TH - [GK]

    But smth like this? I am currently doing that due to fact I cant doublebuff inbetween gcd and I have one of my jumps between FT - 4TH. I dont think this usage of GK is any worst but still please advise

    HT - ID - [BOTD] - DI - CT - 4TH - PH - TT - VP - FT - 4TH - [GK]
    --- DO NOT USE GEIRSKOGUL HERE
    HT - ||| ID - DI - CT - 4TH - PH ||| - TT - VP - FT - 4TH - [GK]
    Yes, as your GK isn't going to be buffed by any of your buffs in your opener.
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    Lucael_Shikaree's Avatar
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    Lucael Shikaree
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Think about it this way. Each line has two combos.
    So what you just quoted, is 4 combos in total. You're skipping combo 3. You can use your first GK whenever, where ever, you like on the first line. So to answer your question, no, it will not fall off, as you're stacking up a lot more BotD time by skipping GK on the 3rd combo (second IDC4), granting you an additional 3s breathing room.
    I'm explaining myself badly, what I meant is this: since the advanced opener always had a GK before 4th in the second combo, doing a GK in the third combo was impossible (at least in my experience) from the beginning and using it in the 4 combo was the only choice (GK use is always something like B-B-A/B-B-A/B and so on...). So, I'm assuming you pointed out to not use the GK in the third combo for people that were using GK sooner than the GK-4th in the second combo?
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