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  1. #1101
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    Dacen_Drg's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Dacen Drg
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronzeru View Post
    I know that going weapon first for new tomes is always the way to go. But being as i'll be all 190 save for chest piece and one ring, i'm so tempted to go with the 200 chest piece, and go after the weapon next round, just so I have even more of a boost for A1S tonight. Is that worth it, or should I still just be patient and get the weapon next week?
    I am having this struggle too, I really want to go for weapon, but as someone in my static points out, going from that 180 body to the 200 body will be big increase in VIT, Defense and MDefense, helping with overall survivablity.
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  2. #1102
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    Greyfrost's Avatar
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Hello, so erm yeah, I guess this is my second time asking for advices and help here, here's the thing.

    I got out dps'd by a BRD last night on my continuum run, it was an FC run, personally I wouldn't mind if the difference isn't too big but it is, and it's not quite to my liking.

    I know they get buffed everytime I use Disembowel or Battle Litany, but it shouldn't be that way, right?

    Also for the last boss, I tried ignoring adds to cheat my dps and keep hitting the boss while I leave the adds to him, but I still lost.

    I don't truly know what's happening. I don't have any image on dps parse, sorry.

    HT is always up, BotD and GK timing is also not a problem. I'm using full i180 gear. I think he is too.
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  3. #1103
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    CookieMonsta's Avatar
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    Character
    Shirayuki Kova
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfrost View Post
    Word Limit.
    Its probably the difference in uptime and/or a string of lucky Crit Procs for that BRD skill (bloodletter? im not sure). BRD has essentially 100% uptime on DPS while you as DRG have a disadvantage here, even a few seconds of lost uptime means lost Autoattacks, Skill GCDs etc etc.
    Also check your movements, when you auto-run (unless controls set to legacy) too much for micro-adjustment movements, you lose autoattacks.
    Lastly, check the parser, I know ACT reads from RAM and TCP packets so its DoT detection is quite good, cant say the same for other parsers.
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  4. #1104
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    OrionStark's Avatar
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    Orion Stark
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    As far as Weapon vs Gear goes it is a very close comparison in my case.

    Comparing the stat weights in my current gear set up (I went for the chest over the legs from Normal and the neck is my largest upgrade currently):

    Weapon = 1989.317
    Legs/Neck = 1986.719

    This is about a .18% difference with the weapon ever so slightly in the lead. Considering the Legs and Neck are BiS and the weapon is not, I am highly considering taking the Legs/Neck for the Vit and MDef increases.

    Again, this is just how my case worked out so you would have to run the numbers for yourself to see whats best for you.
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    Last edited by OrionStark; 07-30-2015 at 01:43 AM. Reason: Spelling :/

  5. #1105
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    whiskeybravo's Avatar
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OrionStark View Post
    As far as Weapon vs Gear goes it is a very close comparison in my case.

    Comparing the stat weights in my current gear set up (I went for the chest over the legs from Normal and the neck is my largest upgrade currently):

    Weapon = 1989.317
    Legs/Neck = 1986.719

    This is about a .18% difference with the weapon ever so slightly in the lead. Considering the Legs and Neck are BiS and the weapon is not, I am highly considering taking the Legs/Neck for the Vit and MDef increases.

    Again, this is just how my case worked out so you would have to run the numbers for yourself to see whats best for you.
    If tanks wearing Str gear is any indication of Vit requirements...

    1989.317/990 tomes = 2.01 weight per tome
    1986.719/1200 tomes = 1.65 weight per tome

    Just for giggles
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  6. #1106
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    Greyfrost's Avatar
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Well, just did normal faust and I only parsed at around 900mark dps.

    Back to training dummy for me.
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  7. #1107
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    TheKingSlayer's Avatar
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    Older King
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfrost View Post
    Well, just did normal faust and I only parsed at around 900mark dps.

    Back to training dummy for me.
    The drg community is extremely friendly and helpful. If you can post a clip of your rotation we can give you some tips on where you maybe able to improve.
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  8. #1108
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    Ronzeru's Avatar
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    Character
    Dorian Makai
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacen_Drg View Post
    I am having this struggle too, I really want to go for weapon, but as someone in my static points out, going from that 180 body to the 200 body will be big increase in VIT, Defense and MDefense, helping with overall survivablity.
    Surviability wasn't as much of my issue, as much as trying to figure out what would be the stat weight comparisons... in between 180 -> 200 body, in comparison to 190 -> 200 weapon. Tho everyone is stating the increase from 190 -> 200 weapon would be higher damage in comparison.

    Body 180 iLv / Body 200 iLv
    +78 Str / +93 Str = +15 Str
    +78 Vit / +97 Vit = +19 Vit
    +69 Acc /+86 Acc = +17 Acc
    +46 Det / +60 Crt = +60 Crit/-46 Det

    Vs.

    Weapon iLv 190 / iLv 200

    Dmg 72 / Dmg 74 = +2 Dmg

    Str+92 / Str+101 = +9 Str
    Vit+94 / Vit+105 = + 11 Vit
    Crit+83 / Crit+92 = +9 Crit
    SS+58 / SS+64 = +6 SS

    So with body being
    Body
    +6 Str
    +60 Crit/-46 Det
    +8 Vit

    of a increase, everyone has let me know that the extra +2 dmg and SS edges out those stat increases, from going weapon over body first.
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  9. #1109
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    dragoon has higher hp than all other dps, you don't need hp that much.
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  10. #1110
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    Spayd's Avatar
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    Lillianne Nelligan
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 64
    How much people are parsing at the end of A1S? I did 902 on our first kill, I probably could do more if i was really optimizing the deeps there, but i want to know other drg results.
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