How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[ChaozK]

Aye, i'd much rather have a ninja for trick attack rather than a second dragoon. The only difference now is that having more than one DRG isnt as redundant as before.

[Neyka]

So if there are multiple DRG in a party, is it more potency/damage to skip the CT combo altogether (if the others are keeping up the Disembowel buff)? The FT combo would do more damage than the CT DoT, right?

Well, the TTT combo has a total potency of 150 + 200 + 360 = 710, while the IDC combo has a potency of 180 + 220 + 250 + 35 per dot tick (I think it's 10 dot ticks total, for 350 potency, but not sure). According to those numbers, as long as you get two ticks of the dot, the IDC combo is more damage, so you'll still want to keep up the CT dot, even with another dragoon in the party.

[Neyka]

You can download the sim and find out! =D

Simply set the "blank" oGCD timer check to be very high (say 1.2 seconds) to force only using 1 oGCD per gcd. You may also want to cut down on the precasted opener which contains double oGCDs.

IIRC the sim already mostly only uses 1 ogcd per - it does use the old jump delays so actually jump may be easier to use now (no longer clip GCDs).

Got a link to the sim? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

[Maconi]

Do not quote me 100% and hopefully someone can either support or correct this statement of mine (I don't have my models with me), but yes, if you have another Dragoon in the party, then reverting back to a rotation similar to our old one, x1 IDC4 x2 TTT4 should be slightly more PPS.

Got a link to the sim? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

Ahh, so what you're both saying is that we'd still want to maintain the CT DoT, but since it's a longer duration than Disembowel we could fit in another FT combo (like the old rotation) rather than alternating CT/FT (which is the new rotation, assuming no other Dragoons)?

Thanks for the info.

[Ronzeru]

Why do you need a monk for dragonkick anymore, when you can just have a darkknight now do it with Delirium?

[Kuroyasha]

Why do you need a monk for dragonkick anymore, when you can just have a darkknight now do it with Delirium?

what anime is your signature from? I keep seeing it as I browse the forums now I'm curious lol

[PhalanxField]

Why do you need a monk for dragonkick anymore, when you can just have a darkknight now do it with Delirium?

Delirium is only INT Down. Doesn't bring Blunt down as well.

[ColdestHeaven]

DRK's Delirium is actually pointless if there is a monk.

[KefL0]

hi, my ilvl is 180 and i checked my dps is 1623 for 2 continuous cycles of rotation without using potions and ir(cuz i don't have it), is it normal or is it relatively low? cuz i have heard that some people are doing 2500

[Sleigh]

hi, my ilvl is 180 and i checked my dps is 1623 for 2 continuous cycles of rotation without using potions and ir(cuz i don't have it), is it normal or is it relatively low? cuz i have heard that some people are doing 2500

Hmm, no offense intended, but don't you think you should get IR and then compare? Everyone you compare to is going to have IR. It only takes about 20 minutes or so, even if you're leveling a fresh Pugilist.