How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[seekified]

I hate trying to land 4th on small, player sized mobs like in Vault because their positional circle is so small, and with effects flying everywhere I often miss, resulting in a sad 200-230 damage Wheeling Thrust/F&C. Couldn't they have at least gave it like 180 potency from any direction, but 290 from the positional or something?

I've noticed that too. I've had all party and mob effects disabled ever since I did T6 the first time, which helps, but it's still hard if the tank likes moving around. The 4ths are bloody useless if you don't get the positional, but considering our raw output I think that's fair enough at this point.

EDIT: I'd like to talk about helmets. Using our old statweights, the Valerian helmet is better by about 7-ish relative STR when compared to the unupgraded Law helmet. The Law helmet does have lots of crit though, and considering the changes to crit perhaps it is better anyway?

[ColdestHeaven]

I've noticed that too. I've had all party and mob effects disabled ever since I did T6 the first time, which helps, but it's still hard if the tank likes moving around. The 4ths are bloody useless if you don't get the positional, but considering our raw output I think that's fair enough at this point.

EDIT: I'd like to talk about helmets. Using our old statweights, the Valerian helmet is better by about 7-ish relative STR when compared to the unupgraded Law helmet. The Law helmet does have lots of crit though, and considering the changes to crit perhaps it is better anyway?

#whenyoupresswheelingthrustandyoujustgotaggro

[seekified]

#whenyoupresswheelingthrustandyoujustgotaggro

Still smile every time I rip my main target off the tank.

[Aiurily]

Still smile every time I rip my main target off the tank.

that feel when even undergeared DRKs are hard to rip off of because of extra enmity

[Syzygian]

Still smile every time I rip my main target off the tank.

As a DRG that secondaries tanking jobs, none of this. Cmon now, you have the best aggro dump in the game and a shiny aggro meter under your name... don't perpetuate loldrg by not watching your hate D: Especially now with these positionals!

[HeavensSword]

As a DRG that secondaries tanking jobs, none of this. Cmon now, you have the best aggro dump in the game and a shiny aggro meter under your name... don't perpetuate loldrg by not watching your hate D: Especially now with these positionals!

Agreed. Think of the group, shed your hate.

That being said, in trash content like WoD or certain trials I don't mind popping some defensives and tanking just a little before I EJ.

My secondary is PLD though, so tank responsibly.

[seekified]

As a DRG that secondaries tanking jobs, none of this. Cmon now, you have the best aggro dump in the game and a shiny aggro meter under your name... don't perpetuate loldrg by not watching your hate D: Especially now with these positionals!

My secondary is WAR as well so I know exactly what it feels like to lose hate on something in a pull. I manage my aggro fine but I just think it's funny when I do take aggro. EJ's cooldown makes it unsuitable as a reliable aggro dump in trash pulls as you can make six pulls in the time it takes to pop again.

[Dervy]

EDIT: I'd like to talk about helmets. Using our old statweights, the Valerian helmet is better by about 7-ish relative STR when compared to the unupgraded Law helmet. The Law helmet does have lots of crit though, and considering the changes to crit perhaps it is better anyway?

If I can't get updated weights before the 8th July, next time you'll get them is the 1st, unless people do a massive data-collection survey for me, then I might be able to sort something out whilst I'm away. I'll need A LOT of Data Points to recalculate the damage formula as I don't believe DET is the only thing that's changed.

[seekified]

If I can't get updated weights before the 8th July, next time you'll get them is the 1st, unless people do a massive data-collection survey for me, then I might be able to sort something out whilst I'm away. I'll need A LOT of Data Points to recalculate the damage formula as I don't believe DET is the only thing that's changed.

Prolly easier if you hit me up ingame now that we're on the same server if there's something I can help you test - my monitoring of these forum threads come and go in waves so I tend to miss stuff.

[Viridiana]

If I can't get updated weights before the 8th July, next time you'll get them is the 1st, unless people do a massive data-collection survey for me, then I might be able to sort something out whilst I'm away. I'll need A LOT of Data Points to recalculate the damage formula as I don't believe DET is the only thing that's changed.

Nope, pretty sure all four damage stats have changed. Det obviously changed auto-attack, but my level 50 auto-attack stayed the same or went up, so either STR or WD went up to compensate, and then crit and SS have obvious changes that need to be worked out. . .