How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[FreyrPrime]

I tried to adjust my binds from 50 to 60 and I just feel so awkward now.

Anyone willing to post their UI and binds for a keyboard and mouse user? Even with my Naga Hex I feel awkward.

I think the problem I'm having is finding a spot for our two 4th's and Gsk. I usually set up my binds like:

Alt1-Alt4: CT Combo
1-4: Full Thrust Combo

The 5th and 6th required key for Fang/Wheeling and GSK just doesn't feel natural. I currently have them on 1 and Alt 1 on my Naga, and 2 on my Naga for GSK, but I'd like to find a spot on my keyboard that feels natural for such an important part of the combo.

EDIT: Also, Panabearcat is a Eisenhorn/Ravenor fan and that is awesome. The Emperor Protects.

[whiskeybravo]

but I cant play correctly with sides placements and 50% chance of proc.

That's why I spent an hour trying to come up with a way to fix the hotbars, change sucks xD

As goofy as the system seems, it's what SE decided to do, so we have to adapt to the change or sit on the bench.

But if you're the mashing type of player like me, your thumb will not play any differently, you'll just switch sets around manually way less.

I am def a button masher, so I don't foresee the action delay for my macro idea being too much of a hindrance, unless it starts causing some adverse side effects weaving in jumps and such. Won't know for a while tho.

As a side note, has anyone been having issues with target cycling? I have, some times it just won't cycle through the enemies. Really prevalent tanking when I switch enemies to spread enmity around. I don't recall ever having this much trouble, just flat out won't select enemies that are standing right in front of me when I go to cycle through.

[HeavensSword]

As a side note, has anyone been having issues with target cycling? I have, some times it just won't cycle through the enemies. Really prevalent tanking when I switch enemies to spread enmity around. I don't recall ever having this much trouble, just flat out won't select enemies that are standing right in front of me when I go to cycle through.

I just wish they would revisit enemy cycling in general. I have next enemy and previous enemy bound to my "thumb" mouse buttons; it usually works well for me, but it's still super quirky. I've been tanking on DRK lately and have noticed i've had to click monsters a bit more than I use too simply because my target cycling was failing to select what I wanted.

[Dervy]

The 5th and 6th required key for Fang/Wheeling and GSK just doesn't feel natural. I currently have them on 1 and Alt 1 on my Naga, and 2 on my Naga for GSK, but I'd like to find a spot on my keyboard that feels natural for such an important part of the combo.

I have a G600. Here are my keybinds.

The center 8 skills:
1-2-3-4
Alt+1-2-3-4

The 3x4 on the Left are 12 random buttons. They're stuff like Shift+*, Shift+@, etc. Shift+6/7/8/9

The 3x4 on the Right are ctrl + the 12 random buttons.

All of the 3x4 layouts however are all button keys, so I'm not stretching my hand across my keyboard. I just didn't know wha to bind them as, and I never wanted them to interfere with my other buttons. It's so simple and easy to remember with a g600, as I organised my hotbar layout to reflect the 12 buttons on my mouse.

My oCD ability layout is slightly different now, but the actual hotbar slots still keep the same keybinds. I also put BotD in the middle of the enlarged WT+ FC.

[Aiurily]

i use 123 for FT, 45V for CT (yeah..) and F1/F2 for F&C/WT

[Zeviand]

Loving the new changes! I always felt dragoon felt too easy. With the way you have to adjust on the fly with random positional procs, the skill ceiling has significantly gone up. My biggest gripe is how dots don't line up, if the added 2-4 on dis and ct if be a happy camper

[FreyrPrime]

That looks amazing, I'd seen it earlier in the thread, but I thought it might be for a game pad. It's not possible to export this is it? I'd dearly love that, otherwise I'll have to try and set it up from the picture lol.

Thank you in advance.

[seanpez]

I don't know if this has been confirmed or not (only level 54 myself) but some websites have this at the end of Blood of the Dragoon:

(Effects end upon reuse, or upon using a weaponskill other than Fang and Claw or Wheeling Thrust.)

So we might not need to keep BotD up the whole time. So an opening rotation might look like this?
HT-IR-ID-BFB-Dis-BotD-CT-PS-IDC4-Jump-Geirskogul-Ph-Sweep-TP-SSD-VP-LS-FT-DFD...etc
I'm not an expert and am not going to do the math to see if this will work OR if BFB will fall off before we get to FT. And if it would fall off before FT, would we rather have BFB for FT or for CT/IDC4? (I think BFB will fall off before we FT)
Where I put Jump-Geirskogul back to back, we need to figure out if we want 2+ Off-GCD skills in a row or if we want to let BotD fall off and continue weaving our Off-GCD into our rotation as before. Sorry if this is rambling.

[Dervy]

1) That "Effects end upon reuse" only affects Enhanced Wheeling Thrust and Shaper Claw & Fang buffs, the procs which enable to use them
2) It only says Weapon Skills - as in GCDs. You can weave any oCD ability in between CT/FT and "4th".
3) BFB has already been shown, even with clipping 1.9 ticks of Chaos Thrust, that it is most potent after Heavy Thrust.
4) You have no room for Pot in your opener.

That looks amazing, I'd seen it earlier in the thread, but I thought it might be for a game pad. It's not possible to export this is it? I'd dearly love that, otherwise I'll have to try and set it up from the picture lol.

Thank you in advance.

http://www.filedropper.com/ui

This is my UI. Add it into My Documents -> My Games -> FFXIV -> Character Folder and dump it all there. This will give you my entire UI and hotbar layout. Also, macros are included as I have button macros, which "flip open" other hotbars. I hide my Gearsets, Mounts and other things in those special macro'd hotbars

I'd suggest you back up your older/original ui layout first, however.

[Zeviand]

Dunno how optimal it is since it hasnt been a week yet but my rottation goes like this:
HT>(IR+BFB)>ID>(BL+LSw)>Dis>(BotD+power surge)>CT>(geirk)>Proc Move>(Jump)>Phleb>(DFD)>TT>(SSD)>VT>(LS)>FT>Proc

then HT>FT combo> Proc > Phleb > CT combo > proc while weaving in OGCDS as they come up.

If you use BotD after the second move of any combo you can geirk before hitting your positional. If I see BotD above 22 seconds i geirk and still keep my BotD up. If im I've finished the second move of CT or FT combo and there's less than 15 seconds on BotD and the buff is up, i use it, then finish combo, geirk, positional proc.

At i179 i can comfortably parse above 1k. I havent dont any real raiding or any real dummy parses with optimal food, pots, pt buff so dunno how much better it can get.