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    KefL0's Avatar
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    Zero Fate
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    hi, my ilvl is 180 and i checked my dps is 1623 for 2 continuous cycles of rotation without using potions and ir(cuz i don't have it), is it normal or is it relatively low? cuz i have heard that some people are doing 2500
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KefL0 View Post
    hi, my ilvl is 180 and i checked my dps is 1623 for 2 continuous cycles of rotation without using potions and ir(cuz i don't have it), is it normal or is it relatively low? cuz i have heard that some people are doing 2500
    Hmm, no offense intended, but don't you think you should get IR and then compare? Everyone you compare to is going to have IR. It only takes about 20 minutes or so, even if you're leveling a fresh Pugilist.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 07-15-2015 at 01:40 PM.

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    Lucael_Shikaree's Avatar
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    Lucael Shikaree
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KefL0 View Post
    hi, my ilvl is 180 and i checked my dps is 1623 for 2 continuous cycles of rotation without using potions and ir(cuz i don't have it), is it normal or is it relatively low? cuz i have heard that some people are doing 2500
    Don't use you DRG again until you get Internal Release.
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    Robby Nyterain
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I have a slight gear dilemma. I have 4 pieces of Alex gear now (Ring, Boots, Belt, and Gloves after tonight's maintenance) My SS is going to no way be near 590 with any food, so what should my rotation look like now with less SS? Or should I wait until I get more Alex with SS? Without gloves and belt (180 Law ones on instead) and roast canard I'm at 592 or so.

    Alex savage will more and likely be party finder for me as I don't have a static so waiting for gear isn't too big a problem. Thanks.
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    Lucael Shikaree
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Startropic View Post
    I have a slight gear dilemma. I have 4 pieces of Alex gear now (Ring, Boots, Belt, and Gloves after tonight's maintenance) My SS is going to no way be near 590 with any food, so what should my rotation look like now with less SS? Or should I wait until I get more Alex with SS? Without gloves and belt (180 Law ones on instead) and roast canard I'm at 592 or so.

    Alex savage will more and likely be party finder for me as I don't have a static so waiting for gear isn't too big a problem. Thanks.
    Prototype Gordian Wristband of Slaying should be your priority because of the +36 Skill Speed on it. I just checked the stats on Prototype Gordian Breeches of Maiming and probably they're going to be useful until you get the body.
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    Last edited by Lucael_Shikaree; 07-16-2015 at 01:33 AM.

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    Cydney Highwind
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 60
    should put in the rotation of shame for dragoons in as well.

    for me the rotation of shame at the moment seems to be

    HT->IDC->Phleb->TTT->TTT repeat
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    "Rotation of Shame". I like it...

    Aaand thank you. You reminded me that I forgot to add something onto the OP before I flew. But yeah, that is the mathematically superior rotation if you don't have BOTD.
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    What is the amount of time chaos thrust/phlebotomize need to be worth using, like in a fight like ravana where he jumps often.

    Where using TTT would have been better that applying IDC only to watch him jump shortly after. Dots do zero damage while mobs are invincible (or at least that's what I always assumed.)
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    Neyka Kawaii
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    What is the amount of time chaos thrust/phlebotomize need to be worth using, like in a fight like ravana where he jumps often.

    Where using TTT would have been better that applying IDC only to watch him jump shortly after. Dots do zero damage while mobs are invincible (or at least that's what I always assumed.)
    2 dot ticks (for the IDC combo), so 4-6 seconds depending on the dot heartbeat.

    A phlebotomize would need to tick 7 times (~21 seconds) before the damage would exceed a full thrust. I'm not sure how skill speed factors into that however. The old thread listed the best rotations for bursting in a few available GCD windows.

    That said, it's not clear to me if bosses still take dot damage while untargettable, though we always raided as if they did, applying dots right before jump/invuln phases. It may vary by fight.
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    Last edited by Neyka; 07-16-2015 at 07:38 AM.

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    Dux Dragunity
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Is there a cap for Skill Speed? Because I played around in Ariyala and the full Proto-Gordian set + Cockatrice Meatballs give 667 SSpd. Can we go less than 2.39 GCD? And with our rotation now (Because I realize the more SSpd the more you're able to push GKs) is it necessary to go beyond 2.4 GCD?
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