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  1. #571
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    We were punished severely. Which is exactly why they went and fixed that mess.

    Positionals are fine. I've been playing DRG since release. I can cope with something I don't enjoy because I like every single other aspect of the job. But 190 potency loss due to RNG is complete and utter bullshit. RNG punishment is my only complaint.

    EDIT: I shouldn't even say RNG punishment. Excessive RNG punishment is more correct. That stuff is why we got our positional fix in the first place.
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    Last edited by Tilgung; 07-03-2015 at 12:05 PM.

  2. #572
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    Vornin Samoht
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    Marauder Lv 76
    How are Dragoons parsing in Ravana Ex? Full fight, not just the increased damage one.
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  3. #573
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    At least targets like Bismarck's chitin/corona always give you the positional, quite happy with that. Ravana's Seeing is annoying, but not nearly as annoying as doing Leviathan pre-2.45. Man, that was tedious.

    On a different note, I still dream of a shorter cooldown on Elusive Jump. It's always been one of my favourite skills, but running expert roulettes with i150 tanks makes it downright impossible to do my job properly without involuntarily tanking stuff.
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  4. #574
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    Apeiron Kinglight
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Q: Battle Litany and Internal Release are additive, yes? Hence why we use BL first before IR? Or does it not matter and we just use BL b/c the long cooldown and the added buff to our party members?

    I have a CHR of 526 atm, and I want to know if I'm dropping a +79 to CHR and then +61, or +79 and +53.
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  5. #575
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    Karis Angara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeiron View Post
    Q: Battle Litany and Internal Release are additive, yes? Hence why we use BL first before IR? Or does it not matter and we just use BL b/c the long cooldown and the added buff to our party members?
    From what I remember IR is just a flat 20 percentage points increase in actual crit rate, not a 20% increase of your crit stat. BL should be the same and just go on top of one another for a total of 35%, so as you say applying BL first to make everyone love you is the way to go. Some testing to confirm this would be good though I suppose if it hasn't already been done.
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    Last edited by seekified; 07-03-2015 at 06:24 PM.

  6. #576
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    M'mkay. I'd test it myself, but I'm not too keen on how to do this.
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  7. #577
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    Lani Akea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    Wheeling Thrust proc on Ravana when the only damageable spot is on one of the flanks is RNG punishment.
    And you don't think that's what they were shooting for when they designed the seeing mechanic ? Yeah, sometimes you'll have trouble landing that 4th hit, so what ? It's not something you can't recover from dps-wise. Every class has to deal with something similar on Ravana.

    EDIT: the positional fix happened because of fights like T11. The 4th hit positional requirements are far from being as punishing as HT/ID were back then.
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    Last edited by QCrimson; 07-03-2015 at 07:36 PM.

  8. #578
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vornin View Post
    How are Dragoons parsing in Ravana Ex? Full fight, not just the increased damage one.
    Why would anyone just parse Liberation/Swift Liberation/Prelude To liberation? lol

    Anyway, a good i180 parse with i190 spear is 800+.


    Quote Originally Posted by Apeiron View Post
    Q: Battle Litany and Internal Release are additive, yes? Hence why we use BL first before IR? Or does it not matter and we just use BL b/c the long cooldown and the added buff to our party members?

    I have a CHR of 526 atm, and I want to know if I'm dropping a +79 to CHR and then +61, or +79 and +53.
    Additive.

    Pop IR and check your Stats panel. If it were to affect your actual Critical Hit Rating, that value would go up.
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  9. #579
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Hello, I need to know if after finishing FT/CT you get a buff that tells you which wheeling or fang/claw to use (and if so, its name and duration) or whether it just lights up one of them like a normal combo, w/o applying a buff.
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  10. #580
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    You get two buffs. Either "Enhanced Wheeling Thrust" or "Sharper Fang & Claw". This buff lasts 10s and you instantly lose it upon using another Weapon Skill.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 07-03-2015 at 09:15 PM.

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