How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[RachaelMarie22]

Had a go at ravana ex last night, hit a problem with the first seeing whatever, if it's left or right my group are asking me to hold back cause my tank can't hit front and I'm ripping aggro..doesn't feel good not being able to ham the burst out..

[seekified]

Had a go at ravana ex last night, hit a problem with the first seeing whatever, if it's left or right my group are asking me to hold back cause my tank can't hit front and I'm ripping aggro..doesn't feel good not being able to ham the burst out..

A bit odd. By the time Ravana does that move, the tank should've built up sufficient aggro to make it through that, I'd imagine. Are you significantly out-gearing your tank? Worst case, he can always spam Flash during that section because Seeing only blocks physical skills as far as I'm aware.

[Dervy]

The rotation in the OP isn't for players who know how to use GK to follow. It's for newer players who need to understand the relationship between BotD, GK and their combos. Having it set-up the way I did, it makes it easier for players to practice on the training dummy and learn the timing of their cooldowns, as well as observe the numbers more carefully.

It's easy for you to say "oh as long as you get 3 per/min in, who cares". A newer player would just blow 3 in and mistime everything and wonder why they only got one, then come here and QQ. It's nothing more than training wheels for newbies. I mean, it does even say "Basic Opener for Beginner Dragoons" in the title, for goodness sake, lmao.

The reason why I haven't put an in depth explanation is because of gear for Alexander Normal and consequently, Savage, where stats will continuously be inflated. At higher GCDs, your BotD usage changes from being used in between VT -> FT on the first BotD cast. Instead, you're ending up delaying the cast by an additional 5 GCDs to make it fit correctly, thus, there's a slight cooldown management shift. But what's the point in writing about that when we don't know how stat values will increase when the gear comes out?

Our rotation is reliant on Skillspeed and that is why I've not posted any more "complex" rotations. My own personal rotation isn't even in the OP because I know the timings off by heart - I assume many other Dragoons here have changed GK usage from being used after their first 4th to being double-weaved with Life Surge or something else.

[Aiurily]

aaa, close to 900 on ravana ex (865 with lb3)

maybe i should start using draco pots and stop being cheap

[FreyrPrime]

aaa, close to 900 on ravana ex (865 with lb3)

maybe i should start using draco pots and stop being cheap

Damn, Aiurily! We had a 5% wipe last night on Ravana EX cause of the enrage, but I think it's because had to use a healer LB3 to recover after the double preys.

AoE is a good point though. What is our AoE rotation now? At what point do we switch to Doomspike rather than just going through our normal rotation and letting GSK cleave?

[Jonnycbad]

Honestly if fighting more than 3 mobs, I pop BotD for Jump potency, but I still maintain my HT-RT-DS-DS-DS and weave in my jumps/LS between. To keep up your botd while killing hoards of fodder is impractical. Maybe towards the end, when most of the mobs have ~10% left, I'll pop blood and do a geirskogul, but I wont do my 4th rotations because on more than 3+ mobs, I'm sure DS is better... Also let's be honest, the chances of you landing your positionals on CT/WT/FC on 6+ fodder is slim unless effects are off and tank is solid.

[Dervy]

Jesus. Do you have a pic of that? What was the run kill and group composition? 1 Tank x5 DPS x2 Heals?

[Aiurily]

mnk/drg/blm/mch/pld/war/whm/sch

[Dervy]

Damn. I've got a lot of work to do and catch up to that.

[Arson_king]

Hey guys! thanks for making this nice guide but I am having some issues with GK timing on the third one and AOE in these long unending dungeons that we have as of right now.
Anyone could tell me what they are using for AoE?