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    SpecialKK's Avatar
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    Kulit Kulitin
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    Hello all! Hit 60 last night (finally!) so I got to mess around with WT and Geirskogul. Unfortunately, my gear is still fairly low so I can't quite fit the rotation that Dervy, Thandiel, and Aurily have worked so hard to create and post here for others to share. However, I'd like to post my contribution to this thread, as I feel like I've managed to find a sweet spot. One of the main issues I had upon learning of the 4th combo + GK being added to our rotation was "Oh noes where do I put it in my Crossbar?!?!"

    I messed with a couple of configurations, one that was overly complicated (and terrible quite frankly, as I couldn't get my fingers to break a years worth of muscle memory). But alas, I believe I have found a really good setup for those playing with a controller. Caveat of course, everyone has their own preferences, but as I said. I had years of muscle memory programmed, and after configuring my crossbar to this, it took me a few turns and already it felt natural. Muscle memory isn't quite to where it used to be before, but I feel it'll get there very very quickly. Anyway, here goes!

    Set 1



    Concept is that basically, everything (well, just about everything) in our rotation is on Set 1. General flow is from right moving clockwise. This allows you to hit the main moves (HT->IDC) using the face buttons while weaving using the dpad. Once you are done with your HT->IDC combo, then you move to the LT to initiate the Ph->TTT combo, again using the dpad to weave the jumps.

    But wait, you said this is supposed to help with the 4th combo and GK? Also, where is Life Surge?!?



    Ah, here's the solution.

    What I did was go to Character Customization->Hotbar->Crossbar. I enable Crossbar 3 (Enable customization for when weapon is drawn) and dumped LS, FC, WT, and GK in there putting them on the face buttons of BOTH sides of Set 3 (I also had LB and KF in there on the dpad, but those were just left over from my previous modification. Those can be ignored of course, or you can put whatever on there). Once you've dumped the skills you want into Set 3, you can disable Crossbar 3 (so it doesn't cycle when you are actually in battle).

    Finally, you want to enable the Expanded Crossbar Display Type:

    Display LT->RT = Cross Hotbar 3 Left
    Display RT->LT = Cross Hotbar 3 Right

    Essentially, at the end of your RT combo (when you hit CT), you keep holding RT and hold LT along with it to display Cross Hotbar 3 Right: giving you the LS, FC (flank), WT (rear), and GK.

    Then, you let go of the RT (while still holding LT), which starts your LT combo (PH->TTT)

    At this point, you follow the same motion with one minor variation. If you are going to stick LS with FT, then you hold RT to pull up LS, let go of RT and press FT (they are mapped to the same button Y for this reason).

    Then, you hold RT again to bring up the same setup for FC, WT, and GK.

    There's a few stuff missing, such as the AOE stuff and the Piercing Talon and such, which I moved to the 2nd set. There's also no room for BL or Pots in Set 1, but those are not often used and can be set to Set 2 as well.

    I also enabled the Vertical Hotbars, to display the cooldowns of 2nd wind, Bloodbath, Mercy Stroke, LS, Battle Littany, etc without flipping to Set 2.

    I did try and copy Dervy by adding FC and WT in the middle (larger size) so I can see it before I pull up the Extended Crossbar. But because of how the Crossbar displays the name of the moves, it blocks it. This can be disabled in the setting, and perhaps I'll do this later once I really get the placement memorized if I find that I need the extra .few seconds to position before I pull up FC/WT.

    Anyway, sorry long winded post. As I said, to each his own. But I really found this setup to be very intuitive and thought it might help others who are struggling with button placement after the additions in Heavensward.
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    Last edited by SpecialKK; 06-30-2015 at 08:08 PM.

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    Sennema's Avatar
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    Sydney Lahkol
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialKK View Post

    What I did was go to Character Customization->Hotbar->Crossbar. I enable Crossbar 3 (Enable customization for when weapon is drawn) and dumped LS, FC, WT, and GK in there putting them on the face buttons of BOTH sides of Set 3 (I also had LB and KF in there on the dpad, but those were just left over from my previous modification. Those can be ignored of course, or you can put whatever on there). Once you've dumped the skills you want into Set 3, you can disable Crossbar 3 (so it doesn't cycle when you are actually in battle).
    This is the perfect solution to my problem! I have an effective (for myself) setup, but didn't want to go to a 3rd hotbar. Didn't realize you could disable #8 with weapon drawn and also set up and then disable the third. Great tip! Don't have GK yet but this is gonna make things so much easier with only 2 active bars plus the L2+R2 one! Thanks!
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    So if you use a controller how do you hit BL or LS? Do you just click thrm with your mouse?
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    So if you use a controller how do you hit BL or LS? Do you just click thrm with your mouse?
    think its a post in progress judging by wording
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    Miriam Bloodstained
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    Quick question to our fellas drg around! Ive been reading this topic since page 40 and haven't noticed talk about our CDs skills (like BFB / IR and others): considering a fight that has no interruption, just pure dps check, should we use em right as they come by or wait to align with others CD? Think i heard that LS is best used to crit FT, but i have no idea about the others

    Another question: i also noticed that some CDs are used together in the opening (BL+BFB / IR + BOTD). You guys use em with a macro or press 2 button? I'm asking this cause im from Brazil and i tried to use 2 oGCD skills inbetween combos and i always fail (probably due to ping, i always get 200+-).
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Use WTFast or Pingzapper, then check out "leatrix latency fix", It should help with latency issues.

    And use them right away. The only one you might wanna hold is GK.
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    In my opener, I do HT - (IR) - ID - (BFB+BL) - Dis - (BotD) - CT - (PS) - 4th, as I figured if I use BFB right after HT it'll go down before the 4th after Full Thrust. Dunno if I'm talking bollocks, but that's how I've done it since I hit 60.

    EDIT: I'm dumb - our increased skillspeed obviously takes care of that. Ah well, old habits and all that.
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    Last edited by seekified; 06-30-2015 at 11:07 PM.

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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    By the way, the proper pronounciation of "Geirskogul" is Jeer-skogool. The Geir part is pronounced like a french J, as in the french name Jacques.
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    Marik Landzaat
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    By the way, the proper pronounciation of "Geirskogul" is Jeer-skogool. The Geir part is pronounced like a french J, as in the french name Jacques.
    That's how a french speaker would pronounce it, but Geirskogul is actually the name of a Norse Valkyrie roughly meaning "Spear-Shaker". Old Norse pronunciation would be something like "Gair-skoh-gl".

    You can hear this woman pronounce it at about 13 secs: https://youtu.be/azcEXlq5vzk?t=12s
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    Last edited by HeavensSword; 07-01-2015 at 12:47 AM.

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    F'mibhas Hena
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    Pretty sure it's pronounced like gekky-wekky. Look at how it's spelt.
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