How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[SunnyHirose]

Eh, more of a boost than you're accounting for. Recall that there's a subtraction that happens after the potency multiplier (or at least there was in 2.5). This means that your CT ticks should have started out (in a 0 SS build) at less than 35/250 of your CT hits, even after factoring out Disembowel.

I must confess I didn't investigate that very closely. Nonetheless, I still have my old stuff kicking around to test a 0 SS build...

[Leonus]

Should I save power surge for jump? Or should I use it on SSD if they line up and jump is on Cool down?

[Syrus_Draco]

Should I save power surge for jump? Or should I use it on SSD if they line up and jump is on Cool down?

Full Thrust IMHO. You do not want to double up on OGCD as that will cut into your weapon skill time. Especially with the animation lock of the jumps. IF you really want to double up, use it on Jump as Jump has a higher potency than SSD. Either way save Power Surge for a weapon skill, as you have plenty of weapon skills with a higher potency than Jump

[spelley]

Full Thrust IMHO. You do not want to double up on OGCD as that will cut into your weapon skill time. Especially with the animation lock of the jumps. IF you really want to double up, use it on Jump as Jump has a higher potency than SSD. Either way save Power Surge for a weapon skill, as you have plenty of weapon skills with a higher potency than Jump

Power Surge != Life Surge

[Syrus_Draco]

Power Surge != Life Surge

Oh my bad I misread XD Then yes save Power Surge for Jump. Like you mentioned Leo the CDs line up together to be used in conjunction. Use it on the more powerful of the two Jumps.

[Dervy]

We're kinda similar in thought process then.

I pull with the tank for starters. This gives me enough time to move around Ravana and hit my first positional easily. I unload everything at the first, use my first GK, then if my groups burst is good, I save my second GK and burst them both during Prelude for the additional damage. I also just go x2 TTT during that cast.

For Liberation Casts, HT -> ID - > DIS -> TTT x2 + LS is the best thing to do and pop all my cooldowns, except BotD. Save it for the next phase. If timed correctly and if you have 2.39GCD (which you should with Deep-Fried Okeanis), you can land all of that in for highest PPS. I usually end this phase now, without a Ninja, at around 1.1k (I have my i190 spear now as well).

For the adds, I usually do my WT/FC's on him. I also do ID -> DIS on the spirits as it's the highest PPS to get them down, plus I can only get 2 GCDs max on them, then throw CT + cheeky PHs on Ravana (Got to paddle that damage)

For Pillars, I do something similar, I go HT -> ID -> DIS, no cooldowns, SSD/Elusive Jump back, then continue my burst rotation. I don't know if I should restart my combo from scratch or carry it on, as HT will always fall off for the last 4th doing it like this. Might try out different things, but I usually just restart it here.

Also for balls, something very risky. If you time it perfectly and attack straight as you get back to him, 30s into the phase, you should be putting DI/CT. Hold the GK just before he casts balls. Basically, the balls only explode once they tether. Until the tethers are up, you can walk through and around them with nothing happening. So I always position myself at maximum distance from Ravana and always get my last hit in when I see the balls, whilst positioning myself in between the balls. Once I see the tethers, I then go back to the wall, do the circle, then the second I see the tethers disappear, SSD/DFD, or run to ravana ASAP and finish off my combo, allowing me to keep BotD throughout this mechanic. You should have enough time during this to keep BotD up, as long as you landed the Disembowel and had at least 10s left on your duration. Kinda hard to explain, but easy to demonstrate.

EDIT: 3 gks in prelude? Woah. I need to fix up slightly then. I can only max out 2.

EDIT 2: Looks like my WD Formula is still consistent. Also, it looks like Skillspeed is scaling DoTs from 0. Recorded myself with 72WD, 827 STR, 373 DET. The slope or damage multiplier per skillspeed is 0.0192(rounded). Interestingly, 1/slope = 51, dead on.

[Neyka]

Ravana tips...

Great information in this thread!

Dervy, can you add a section to the beginning of the thread to cover fight specific tips like you and Aurily posted? Will make it much easier to find and refer to.

[Aiurily]

oh, i might have meant 2 gks in prelude. typo or bad memory, but thinking about it, 3 in prelude sounds unreasonable w

[enil]

You can definitely hit 2 GKs in prelude, the timing is very tight. Sometime's I'll miss it or cast it as I'm backing off at practically max range before GK cooldown comes off. Might be worth dropping a PH to 100% get that 3rd GK off. (Skillspeed food and/or AST card would help).

[Lucael_Shikaree]

Anyone did some test or have some opinion on how the Expanse Partisan works compared to the Iwatoshi-Kai? Do you think that right now the two Physical Damage points are better than the Determination +68?

Since we still don't have any accurate test on how the stats are working in Heavensward compared to ARR probably the best way to approach the equip is going "blind" for Weapon Damage but I'm interested in an opinion from Dervy and other Calculator-Dragoons.

In the same regard, what's your thoughts about Asuran Hachigane of Maiming/Valerian Dragoon's Barbut and Yasha Ring of Slaying/Sharlayan Pankratiast's Ring?