How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Syzygian]

Still smile every time I rip my main target off the tank.

As a DRG that secondaries tanking jobs, none of this. Cmon now, you have the best aggro dump in the game and a shiny aggro meter under your name... don't perpetuate loldrg by not watching your hate D: Especially now with these positionals!

[Dervy]

EDIT: I'd like to talk about helmets. Using our old statweights, the Valerian helmet is better by about 7-ish relative STR when compared to the unupgraded Law helmet. The Law helmet does have lots of crit though, and considering the changes to crit perhaps it is better anyway?

If I can't get updated weights before the 8th July, next time you'll get them is the 1st, unless people do a massive data-collection survey for me, then I might be able to sort something out whilst I'm away. I'll need A LOT of Data Points to recalculate the damage formula as I don't believe DET is the only thing that's changed.

[seekified]

If I can't get updated weights before the 8th July, next time you'll get them is the 1st, unless people do a massive data-collection survey for me, then I might be able to sort something out whilst I'm away. I'll need A LOT of Data Points to recalculate the damage formula as I don't believe DET is the only thing that's changed.

Prolly easier if you hit me up ingame now that we're on the same server if there's something I can help you test - my monitoring of these forum threads come and go in waves so I tend to miss stuff.

[Viridiana]

If I can't get updated weights before the 8th July, next time you'll get them is the 1st, unless people do a massive data-collection survey for me, then I might be able to sort something out whilst I'm away. I'll need A LOT of Data Points to recalculate the damage formula as I don't believe DET is the only thing that's changed.

Nope, pretty sure all four damage stats have changed. Det obviously changed auto-attack, but my level 50 auto-attack stayed the same or went up, so either STR or WD went up to compensate, and then crit and SS have obvious changes that need to be worked out. . .

[FreyrPrime]

So, I was getting extremely frustrated with DRG. To the point that I had begun leveling MNK. This mainly stemmed from the fact that as I got closer and closer to 179, my DPS seemed to lag considerably behind what I knew it should be based on various parses I'd seen from people at a similar gear level.

I spent hours last week trying to perfect my rotation. Yet I couldn't seen to break 750-800 dps sustained no matter how hard I tried. I'd begun to despair that maybe I just sucked at DRG.

That was until Saturday night. My static was putting together our first BIS EX run and decided to test all the DPS going since some of us were on new classes. Our NIN had been bragging all night about sustaining 1k DPS, so I wasn't particularly hopeful. We had a BRD, NIN, SMN, and myself DRG ready to go then we started the contest. We parsed for about 3 1/2 minutes and when the dust settled they read off the rankings.

1100 DPS sustained. Guess my parser is broken >.<

[seekified]

Our NIN had been bragging all night about sustaining 1k DPS, so I wasn't particularly hopeful. We had a BRD, NIN, SMN, and myself DRG ready to go then we started the contest. We parsed for about 3 1/2 minutes and when the dust settled they read off the rankings.

1100 DPS sustained. Guess my parser is broken >.<

If you've changed some filtering settings in ACT or altered the DoT tracking that can happen. 1100 sustained is pretty much where we want to be at this point so nice one!

[Dervy]

Pretty much, I need a lot of parses with:

High Strength, High Det
High Strength, Low Det
Low Strength, low Strength

With 0 WD, Max WD, and WDs in between.

That's a lot of data points....

As for the Potency... I really don't know how to do it, as it's obvious 300 Potency is like Potency*3.03+. I guess it doesn't really matter what the potency is.

[FreyrPrime]

Quick question for the experts.

In the event of a mistimed Geirskogul, say at 20-21 seconds. I know if I continue my rotation as normal I'll drop BotD. Is it a DPS loss to forego a Heavy Thrust or Phleb in order to shave 2.5 seconds off your rotation and thus maintain BotD or do I just let it drop off?

[Dervy]

Depends how close you are to your next BotD, but generally speaking, let Phlebotomize drop and don't reapply it. It's a 1PPS loss in the grand scheme of things. Missing HT is a 3 PPS loss, and dropping BotD is a 8PPS loss.

[Leonus]

So I decided to switch back to drg, finally got into the game (missed early access since I was out of town). Drgs new abilities really seemed to grab me for this expansion , they seem interesting and challenging. I kept up with my drg even after switching to nin after its release, so the change back shouldn't be too much if a shock to my fingers.

BotD just seems so interesting, it's ridiculous.