How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Zeviand]

Loving the new changes! I always felt dragoon felt too easy. With the way you have to adjust on the fly with random positional procs, the skill ceiling has significantly gone up. My biggest gripe is how dots don't line up, if the added 2-4 on dis and ct if be a happy camper

[seanpez]

I don't know if this has been confirmed or not (only level 54 myself) but some websites have this at the end of Blood of the Dragoon:

(Effects end upon reuse, or upon using a weaponskill other than Fang and Claw or Wheeling Thrust.)

So we might not need to keep BotD up the whole time. So an opening rotation might look like this?
HT-IR-ID-BFB-Dis-BotD-CT-PS-IDC4-Jump-Geirskogul-Ph-Sweep-TP-SSD-VP-LS-FT-DFD...etc
I'm not an expert and am not going to do the math to see if this will work OR if BFB will fall off before we get to FT. And if it would fall off before FT, would we rather have BFB for FT or for CT/IDC4? (I think BFB will fall off before we FT)
Where I put Jump-Geirskogul back to back, we need to figure out if we want 2+ Off-GCD skills in a row or if we want to let BotD fall off and continue weaving our Off-GCD into our rotation as before. Sorry if this is rambling.

[Zeviand]

Dunno how optimal it is since it hasnt been a week yet but my rottation goes like this:
HT>(IR+BFB)>ID>(BL+LSw)>Dis>(BotD+power surge)>CT>(geirk)>Proc Move>(Jump)>Phleb>(DFD)>TT>(SSD)>VT>(LS)>FT>Proc

then HT>FT combo> Proc > Phleb > CT combo > proc while weaving in OGCDS as they come up.

If you use BotD after the second move of any combo you can geirk before hitting your positional. If I see BotD above 22 seconds i geirk and still keep my BotD up. If im I've finished the second move of CT or FT combo and there's less than 15 seconds on BotD and the buff is up, i use it, then finish combo, geirk, positional proc.

At i179 i can comfortably parse above 1k. I havent dont any real raiding or any real dummy parses with optimal food, pots, pt buff so dunno how much better it can get.

[Dervy]

1) That "Effects end upon reuse" only affects Enhanced Wheeling Thrust and Shaper Claw & Fang buffs, the procs which enable to use them
2) It only says Weapon Skills - as in GCDs. You can weave any oCD ability in between CT/FT and "4th".
3) BFB has already been shown, even with clipping 1.9 ticks of Chaos Thrust, that it is most potent after Heavy Thrust.
4) You have no room for Pot in your opener.

That looks amazing, I'd seen it earlier in the thread, but I thought it might be for a game pad. It's not possible to export this is it? I'd dearly love that, otherwise I'll have to try and set it up from the picture lol.

Thank you in advance.

http://www.filedropper.com/ui

This is my UI. Add it into My Documents -> My Games -> FFXIV -> Character Folder and dump it all there. This will give you my entire UI and hotbar layout. Also, macros are included as I have button macros, which "flip open" other hotbars. I hide my Gearsets, Mounts and other things in those special macro'd hotbars

I'd suggest you back up your older/original ui layout first, however.

[seanpez]

1) That "Effects end upon reuse" only affects Enhanced Wheeling Thrust and Shaper Claw & Fang buffs, the procs which enable to use them
2) It only says Weapon Skills - as in GCDs. You can weave any oCD ability in between CT/FT and "4th".
3) BFB has already been shown, even with clipping 1.9 ticks of Chaos Thrust, that it is most potent after Heavy Thrust.
4) You have no room for Pot in your opener.

Wow, thanks for pointing that out about the buffs (and pot)! I was taking it over and over again and couldn't understand why no one noticed that. Keep up the great posts! No stat point equivalency yet right?

[Dervy]

Wow, thanks for pointing that out about the buffs (and pot)! I was taking it over and over again and couldn't understand why no one noticed that. Keep up the great posts! No stat point equivalency yet right?

Stat-weights you mean :P. Stat-Equivalence is something different. Not yet, no. Waiting on a few people to sort out Crit/Skillspeed and I'm still gathering gear to re-evaluate my Damage Model. There's a few changes it seems to the base damage of jobs, or how their Strength scales at least, that wasn't documented in the patch notes, on top of figuring out how DET scales AA's once more. Hopefully by the end of next week (before my 3-week hiatus) I should have it all done.

[Dervy]

Yup. You got the rotation on lock. However you still need to pop a Draconian pot somewhere, preferably after Impulse Drive.

If you move your oCDs up one place and fit the Potion where you'd have BL+LSw, it would also work. Also, try get into the habit of using GK after your combo, as you'll never know what could happen with how latency works. Shifting everything up will fix it though.

And Aiurily parses nearly 1.2k if I remember correctly, with food + pots and everything. He bursted 2k as well... so there's that.

[Zeviand]

Random thought. I have no idea what the summoner rotation looks like but if involves casting tri-whatever in the beginning of the fight, would it be wise to use BL prepull as shield lob's going out?

[Nominous]

Lol. Since you can't Life Surge Jump, I just did Life Surge+Jump>Fullthrust, it doesn't expend it until you actually hit a weaponskill :P! Probably something everyone could assume but yeah.