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    Player
    Greyfrost's Avatar
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Eh, so it doesn't really work that well for you o.o"

    5k damage difference in 30 seconds is going to get huge in the long run... lol

    And yessss, usually in A1 Normal I handle both adds, because the other DPS is usually screaming "I GOT M4DD33P5 M8, u hendle Addz"
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    Leananshee Demonreach
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    For those with latency issues: Did you try http://www.wowinterface.com/download...atencyFix.html ? I installed it last night and during A1 & 2S noticed a huge difference I was able to get everything into pot phase (usually the pot ran out before i could hit the 2nd 4th) and in general my CDs seemed smoother and quicker with less failed pops or combo breaks.

    I also use BL first - As soon as the Tank pulls. I can weave with BFB but i do get a little delay hitting the GCD afterwards, and i figure it helps the range as our Brd pops all the things just before pull so makes sense for me to help with the dots.

    lol, i also deal with both adds during A1 Normal. Its really easy and much more reliable than letting others try to do it - I find only a few can handle them strangely enough :P
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    Andyman's Avatar
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    Sophia Storm
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Hi guys,

    I just have a quick question about gear and their secondary stats. Today when clearing our A3 Savage, I got lucky and got both the helm and the pants drop, which is great, except that once again I'll be overflowing with accuracy if I use the 210 Gordian pants. Last week I had purchased the eso pants, so I'm wondering which would be better.

    This is the set with the Gordian ilvl 210 pants.
    https://gyazo.com/918b95017d9e60bc83e3bcf2fa4f5f03

    Set with Dragonlancer's ilvl 200 pants.
    https://gyazo.com/fe7e0822a4b31974b482f8cb1bf4f6c5

    So, what would be the better pick?

    Thanks guys.
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    Leananshee's Avatar
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    Leananshee Demonreach
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Is there anything you still need to buy eso-wise/what are you planning on getting next (if anything from the eso bucket?

    Might be best deciding on what you can swap round, for example: to make up the Crit difference and so you don't lose out too much because of the abundance of Acc.
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
    World
    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    The i200 pants are higher stat weight than the 210 Gordian pants. If that's the only piece you're swapping in those sets, go with eso pants. Hands down. The crit+ss outweighs the str+det gain.
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    Last edited by JackFross; 09-10-2015 at 02:44 AM.

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    Andyman's Avatar
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    Sophia Storm
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    The i200 pants are higher stat weight than the 210 Gordian pants. If that's the only piece you're swapping in those sets, go with eso pants. Hands down. The crit+ss outweighs the str+det gain.
    Thanks Jack, I thought that would be the case.
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    Leananshee's Avatar
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    Leananshee Demonreach
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    The i200 pants are higher stat weight than the 210 Gordian pants. If that's the only piece you're swapping in those sets, go with eso pants. Hands down. The crit+ss outweighs the str+det gain.
    Just for my own musings but wouldn't the SS weight be negated due to the diminishing return? Considering Andyman Britney is already within the SS value needed for 2.40CD. Not that having too much/more SS is a bad thing, but my way of thinking would be that its better to have more base oomf especially for actual content (i.e. savage). Hit harder with the already 'set standard' speed, than not hitting as hard with a slightly faster speed which isn't enough to add any extra moves to our rotation but maybe makes the general rotation a little more comfortable.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Went and bought a Cat6 cable to throw onto my PS4, hopefully that will help me a bit.
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I haven't run math on the diminishing returns of skill speed myself, but the 86 crit alone already almost makes up for the strength and det. Dropping to 730 crit from over 800 is a more significant loss imo than gaining the det and strength can make up. It's personal preference to some degree, sure, but ss IS always a flat dps gain. The only negative to more ss is faster burnout. If they wanna drop ss the more effective way to do so would be buying Dragonlancer's boots to replace Gordian ones. Trades ss for det and doesn't give you 90 more accuracy.

    SS gains can't be measured in how many skills are added to a single run under one heavy thrust. You measure over the course of a fight and see how many extra gcds you get before phase transitions.
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    Last edited by JackFross; 09-10-2015 at 10:00 PM.

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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    If you have the i210 pants, and you're working on A4S, might as well use them for the VIT even if i200 pants are theoretically close in DPS. DRG's fortunate enough to be able to survive a messed up Carnage near i210, unlike everyone else (except BLM <3). Well, sometimes anyway.
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