How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Greyfrost]

just to clarify. for example it'd be like TT-VT-(litany+b4b)-FT

thatd be an example of double weave right?

Yes, that's double weave, do you even read the first post, there's a video there of Dervy doing triple double-weave there, on advanced dragoon opener, I'd recommend to watch it.

[JackFross]

just to clarify. for example it'd be like TT-VT-(litany+b4b)-FT

thatd be an example of double weave right?

Yes. Here's a thing I made a while ago and posted on reddit. It's been edited with corrections Dervy and others gave me after I posted it there. I think it's all good now.
http://puu.sh/jTQhQ/ec6f6b1021.png

Might help people who don't like walls of text understand the meat of the class.

[JackFross]

I tested it with a pair of healer friends back before the AST buffs (the effect of Arrow hasn't been changed) and expanded (party-wide) arrow is a bit weaker than Selene. Single target is better and enhanced is insane. The buffs DO stack.

It was a while ago though. I'm gonna get my friends to come help test with me again soon.

[Luckylowell]

what food is everyone one taking now?

[hagare]

what food is everyone one taking now?

Baked pipira pira for me

[Dualgunner]

https://www.facebook.com/allie.dual/...6/?pnref=story

I dunno if the link will work but here it is, hope it worked ^w^;;;

[JackFross]

Baked Pipira Pira is generally the best food to use. The current bis set uses Urchin Loaf for higher accuracy gets since it's the lowest dps loss from the A3 set.

And @dualgunner I don't have time to give a full rundown but a few things I noticed:
1. you only used 2 gsk between the first and second BotD when you should be using 3 between every time you recast it.
2. you hold your jumps 20s to use them under b4b which is a huge dps loss in the long run. don't do that.
3. You hold blood for blood for like 4 gcds. Also bad. You should use it as soon as it's up.
4. You might wanna optimize your hotbars better for popping ogcd skills. There's a lot of switching that causes you to delay gcds pretty often. Also never ever double weave with a J/SSD/DD.
5. Take WT and FaC off a macro. GCD macros slow you down because they can't be queued like a normal skill.

I'll try and do a more in-depth thing on it tomorrow or so but those are the initial problems I spotted. I'll also get caps of my bars in case.

[Dualgunner]

The original version of this got deleted ^^;

Basically what I said is that your 4th and 5th points are what I have set because of my limitations on a controller. I only have 32 places to set, and only 8 are easily accessible at any time, which is why I streamlined it: L2 + Directional, L2 + R2 + Directional, R2 + Directional. Like this, I have the basic combos all easily accessible, all the ogcds are likewise accessible--I have the actual hotbars up there to help me see when something finally cools down so I can pop it.

The same reason of space limitation is why I have F&C and WT macro'd together--the macro slows me down a bit, but I'd be even slower if I had to separate the skills out and then figure out which button to push.

[Dualgunner]

(due to space limitations)
I am stuck on a controller mostly cuz I am inept with a keyboard and mouse, and am in general far more comfortable on a controller. If you have any tips to give for controller organization I'd greatly appreciate it though ^w^

As for everything else, I'll focus on doing more Geirskoguls per minute. I also did not see myself double weaving jumps with anything, but I'll work on not doing that in the future.

Thank you for the quick rundown critique ^w^

[JackFross]

I actually play on controller, too, so I know what you mean.

My load out could probably be improved since I'm not perfect, but the idea was to put all the essentials on the main bar and keep 99% of the offensive skills on face buttons to facilitate moving and attacking.

http://puu.sh/iz3Pp/c31a4c4377.png
I got rid of that vertical bar on the left after I got used to the 4th hit and realized I never looked at it. At 60 I replaced the left side Mercy Stroke with Geirskogul.

This is my secondary bar.
http://puu.sh/jd61F/013957e68c.jpg

Left side is L2>R2. Right side is R2>L2.

I have my aoe stuff set up on bar 2 and just R1 cycle to it if I need it. I set it so I can only cycle bars 1 and 2 when my weapon is out so it's no problem.

The macro there is my GIVE TP macro. I swap it out with Foresight or Potions as the fight requires. I also have a [please draw enmity] macro for pug tanks. Since I only (rarely) use potions in raids when I have voice, I have no need for anything else there.

// The jump thing was just one time you dropped a Leg Sweep and Jump in the same gcd spin.