How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Greyfrost]

But yeah, you're kind of playing the game on hard mode by being on NA servers! 0.o.

I'm not too sure if it'll help a lot, but it's definitely worth a try, I like my game hard. lol.

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Using FirstMedia as my ISP. Yeaaaah, might consider moving to JP Data Center if I get net-gated in the further content.

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On a side note, for the opener, is it viable to swap the BFB and IR Priority?

So we go like this,

HT > BL+IR > ID > BFB+BotD ?

Because for some reason if I'm using the Adv. Opener as is, the BFB goes down right after Full Thrust, so the BFB doesn't buff the 2nd 4th that comes after Full Thrust.

[JackFross]

HT > BL+IR > ID > BFB+BotD ?

Because for some reason if I'm using the Adv. Opener as is, the BFB goes down right after Full Thrust, so the BFB doesn't buff the 2nd 4th that comes after Full Thrust.

You can swap them for a very minor pps loss. It would be a pps GAIN if your ping is causing you to miss the ninth hit of BFB. Using it as HT>BL+BFB>etc should have it last JUST long enough to catch your second 4th hit, but only with 100% uptime on the boss and perfect hitting of the GCD skills. The timing becomes looser with more SS; at 2.40 even it's REALLY tight. If you physically can't make that 9th gcd, it'd likely be a gain for you to swap it. In my opener I use 99.99% of the time (because Potions are expensive and rarely needed) I do:

HT>[BL+B4B]>ID>[IR]>Dis>[BotD]>CT> same as normal

So it's really easy to (if your B4B won't last) just shift the B4B to couple with IR instead without issue. It only becomes a swapping situation with Pots.

[Greyfrost]

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Thank you Jack, yeah, my ping is 240-ish :c.

My recast is 2.41s at i193 atm, I'm gonna try and tweak it, see if I can get it down to 2.40 or 2.39, and I'll report whether I can hit 2nd 4th being buffed by BFB with BFB used after Heavy Thrust.

Thanks for the input again o/
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And uh... This might be a more technical question :

To weave double-oGCD between two GCDs, do you just press the button immediately after the first GCD animation starts?
And then mash the 2nd oGCD after the first oGCD animation start?

I'm asking because in the runs I've been, it feels like people can weave in their skills at the most unnatural timing as DRG (at least, for me).

For example, in Dervy's vid, he used HT > BL, but the BL animation starts right after the first movement of heavy thrust (The thrusting one), and not the downward swing.
Where as for me, the BL animation starts after the downward swing of Heavy Thrust, no matter how fast / how much I spam the button.

TL;DR : Is there a trick to weaving / casting oGCD faster? Thank you everyone \o/

[Hezhi]

I have a little about the class and the game in general : Is snapshotting a thing ?
If i get, say, a +20% dmg buff and apply a dot on the target, will the dot stay +20% after it fades on my character ?

[hagare]

I have a little about the class and the game in general : Is snapshotting a thing ?
If i get, say, a +20% dmg buff and apply a dot on the target, will the dot stay +20% after it fades on my character ?

I think so

[Jonnycbad]

Yes. Snapshotting is integral for almost all jobs in this game.

[Ninjah2r]

@dervy and others from this thread.


Done a parsing vid for around 4 minutes, I mostly parsed myself on 3-3.30 minutes, never went full 4 minutes.
(I usually do better, parsed 1271 w/o partybuff no food no pots at i192 @3 minutes. Computer is kinda old and running camtasia on it + the usual latency made me lag and therefore killed my dps a bit). Hopefully I'll get some tips from you guys on what I can do better or not, keeping up BOTD while doing the 2 GK per B4B really gets tricky for me with all the latency, I even tried just doing my ID-DI-CT combo without weaving anything in to keep up botd at the last second but it didn't work out :c

https://youtu.be/47ng8iSEZ9E

[Ninjah2r]

@dervy and others from this thread.


Done a parsing vid for around 4 minutes, I mostly parsed myself on 3-3.30 minutes, never went full 4 minutes.
(I usually do better, parsed 1271 w/o partybuff no food no pots at i192 @3 minutes. Computer is kinda old and running camtasia on it + the usual latency made me lag and therefore killed my dps a bit). Hopefully I'll get some tips from you guys on what I can do better or not, keeping up BOTD while doing the 2 GK per B4B really gets tricky for me with all the latency, I even tried just doing my ID-DI-CT combo without weaving anything in to keep up botd at the last second but it didn't work out :c

https://youtu.be/47ng8iSEZ9E

If it's not rude to ask, can anyone give me feedback/tips on my parsing here? I'm still trying to perfect my 2 GK per 1 B4B, but it's impossible at 2.42 gcd. I still need the helmet so I'll go back to 2.41, but might need 2.39 due to latency.

[Nero_Allelujiah]

If you don't mind me asking, how does the rotation and priority of abilities change for fights like A2 savage? I'm a monk main and I can optimize that fight well like that, but now that I'm trying things as a dragoon, I am a bit unsure. Halp.

[Aezodyr]

I threw together a generic BiS with priorities being meeting the 590-620 SSpd and approx 647 Acc for A4S (rumor valued or confirmed?).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Note: This is 210 ilvl. This is not what is optimal for each wing but just a generic one to aim for to cover all the wings. OP handled specific sets for A1-A3.

Comments are enabled so if you have fully mathd out each piece for highest value possible let me know. I plan to do this at some point but couldnt at the present time.

*Edit: Updated the Accuracy Amount for A4S. Cap is 647 estimated*
*Edit2: Made 2 set lists now depending on which food someone wants to use.*