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    Sunny Hirose
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    Maybe you can point out where I'm going wrong? This is what I'm looking at (my character's current stats are plugged in).
    http://puu.sh/jUCaO/a07a245d72.png
    Autoattack DPS appears to be significantly too high to me. The rest is a bit hard to judge by eyeball since the spreadsheets I've been playing with have a different order of operations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    How are the DoTs tracked/clipped in your model Sunny? Yours looks extremely interesting.
    Well, I've worked with two models to date. One of them is just EMX's inscrutable spreadsheet (updated for HW). The main things I'd like to "fix" about it in the near future (since hey, it's never quite done) are the skill speed DoT buff and adjusting the divisors for oGCD PPS to simulate that sometimes they are delayed slightly by GCDs.

    The other, which I have not updated for HW at all, is a spreadsheet that lists every skill use for 8 minutes (arbitrarily chosen to cycle through BfB/IR evenly and give equal weight to opener vs. 100% HT/Disembowel uptime) and applies all buffs. It's pretty inflexible, but in part I found the technique useful for understanding monk opener optimization.

    What I would like to build is plain old code (probably a Lisp of some sort because that's just how I roll). Spreadsheets are useful for dynamically experimenting with GCD sequences and visually diagnosing where DoTs fall off such, but these systems are a bit unwieldy when you know how all that works and just want answers. They're also unwieldy in other ways where static code is quite the opposite (commenting, revision control, writing functions to reuse math instead of making a whole new cell that has to be updated manually, testing hundreds of gearsets instantly...). Oh, and I'm just tired of copy/pasting numbers, heh.
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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Musta missed the stat weight lols.
    Sigh.... Crit before det. I don't like crit builds
    Thanks for all the help guys
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Crit actually affect both your CHR and CDM now, but yeah, I still prefer something that's a 100% than rely on RNG, missing those criticals by a lot.

    On a side note, these number crunchers are crazy :C.
    I passed 1,2k mark finally, that's actually a feat with my latency, (Tested your leatrix, Dervy, it works!)
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    Rap Breon
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfrost View Post
    Crit actually affect both your CHR and CDM now, but yeah, I still prefer something that's a 100% than rely on RNG, missing those criticals by a lot.

    On a side note, these number crunchers are crazy :C.
    I passed 1,2k mark finally, that's actually a feat with my latency, (Tested your leatrix, Dervy, it works!)
    Wait...it does?

    What kind of changes are you seeing?
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon View Post
    Wait...it does?

    What kind of changes are you seeing?
    Less "Loss packets", and a very, VERY slightly lower ping, like 10~20ms combined with WTFast.

    It's free and it's just install and be done with it, I'll take it any day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfrost View Post
    Less "Loss packets", and a very, VERY slightly lower ping, like 10~20ms combined with WTFast.

    It's free and it's just install and be done with it, I'll take it any day
    I remember trying it years ago with WoW and noticing nothing.

    Maybe I'll retry it. I'm wagering you're Australian (or NZ), what ISP are you with?
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    I know the CRT changes, I've just never been a fan of RNG builds xD
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    I'm from South East Asia region xD, Indonesia, particularly.

    Honestly, from Aussie/NZ to JP Data Center shouldn't be that high of a ping? Would still be better than me.

    I'm rolling at 240-260ms :C
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfrost View Post
    I'm from South East Asia region xD, Indonesia, particularly.

    Honestly, from Aussie/NZ to JP Data Center shouldn't be that high of a ping? Would still be better than me.

    I'm rolling at 240-260ms :C
    Dude. Same country here. What are you using? Mine hovers at 100ms.
    Then again I'm in tonberry.

    You might wanna consider changing to a japan data center if it's that bad.

    Tonberry is the unofficial SEA server after all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfrost View Post
    I'm from South East Asia region xD, Indonesia, particularly.

    Honestly, from Aussie/NZ to JP Data Center shouldn't be that high of a ping? Would still be better than me.

    I'm rolling at 240-260ms :C
    Close enough.

    My ISPs routing to JP is bad bad bad. Some have good routing and get like 150 naturally. For me, with WTFast, It goes from like 220 to 160. Wondering if Leatrix is going to improve that or not.

    But yeah, you're kind of playing the game on hard mode by being on NA servers! 0.o.
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