How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Greyfrost]

Alright, I've rewatched Dervy's video for the Advanced Dragoon rotation guide many times.

I still can't figure out how Dervy managed to double-weave oGCD without clipping even a 0.1-0.2s into the GCD.

I was able do it once or twice, but I will clip a splitsecond into the GCD. Is it the button mash? Is it the timing of the buttons pressed? Or maybe latency (I doubt this)?
Not feeling very confident about my double-weave.

I will try and upload a video, I hope you guys would be willing to help.

[SunnyHirose]

It sounds like latency to me. If you have perfect oGCD queuing and pair up the right skills, yet it clips into the GCD, this is probably the case.

[Greyfrost]

It sounds like latency to me. If you have perfect oGCD queuing and pair up the right skills, yet it clips into the GCD, this is probably the case.

I'm playing on a constant (Stable, I think) 260-270ms latency, Hirose, is it the problem?

I don't exactly know how skills input are being transmitted so I'm not sure. I can do a double-weave but only on the BL+BFB after the heavy thrust, if I try to double-weave IR+BotD after Impulse drive, it clips into Disembowel for like 0.2s.

[Barristanselmy]

OK please don't laugh at me if its obvious.

After the advanced opener everything is on cooldown right. So when they start coming off cooldown do we pop them as soon as possible anywhere in the rotation or do we hold them?

I.e. Ir comes off cd do I pop it between CT and TT or do I wait for b4b to come off cd then use them in the same positions as the opener?

This includes jumps, pot and BL. It sounds very obvious I know, I just want to make sure I'm doing it right so I maximise my DPS .

Thanks

[spelley]

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Only a couple of things:

- B4B timings are on main page, and is timed/optimized to cover 2 Geirskoguls.
- Blood of the Dragon should be reused (and most likely lines up almost perfectly depending on latency) after the earliest Vorpal Blade/Disembowel you can do, unless you know there will be a phase shift soon (in which case, save it)
- Battle Litany can usually be used immediately off cooldown, though if you can coordinate with your static you might benefit more from waiting an optimal number of people are in the "burst" part of their rotation. Also make sure if you have multiple DRGs to coordinate who is using it on CD first.
- Pots should be used in conjunction with B4B (I think?)

[Greyfrost]

I'm pretty sure the cooldowns are popped whenever possible, unless waiting for 1 gcd will result in a better output.

For example, BFB goes off cooldown after you used True Thrust, waiting to use it after you use vorpal thrust will result in better output.
Best time to pop BFB is posted by Dervy in first page.

So far I only got PS and Jump timing down because it's very simple lol, 2 jump = 1 PS

[Greyfrost]

Alright, here's me trying to double-weave oGCDs.

It's hard for me to do it, still not sure whether it's latency or whatnot, or maybe it's me >_>

Ichi's 30 Seconds into Adv. Dragoon Opener.

Things to note:
1. Did not use any kind of potions, in the real deal, I will, though.
2. Disembowel is clipped for a bit.
3. GK usage isn't as smooth as the one in Dervy's.
4. Battle Litany isn't in effect, despite the animation is already in motion.

I hope you guys can help me find the cause!

[whiskeybravo]

Alright, here's me trying to double-weave oGCDs.

It's hard for me to do it, still not sure whether it's latency or whatnot, or maybe it's me >_>

Ichi's 30 Seconds into Adv. Dragoon Opener.

Things to note:
1. Did not use any kind of potions, in the real deal, I will, though.
2. Disembowel is clipped for a bit.
3. GK usage isn't as smooth as the one in Dervy's.
4. Battle Litany isn't in effect, despite the animation is already in motion.

I hope you guys can help me find the cause!

Yea that's weird how it showed animation for BL but didn't give you the buff or go on cd. What's your skill speed at out of curiosity? Def seems like a latency issue tho, especially with BL acting weird. But as for skill speed, it just seems like your gcd is going pretty fast, idk if you're at 2.39 it could be exasperating the latency issues

[Greyfrost]

Yea that's weird how it showed animation for BL but didn't give you the buff or go on cd. What's your skill speed at out of curiosity? Def seems like a latency issue tho, especially with BL acting weird

Skill Speed at 595, Recast is 2.41s.

Man, I'd hate it if it's really latency issue.

[Dervy]

Alright, here's me trying to double-weave oGCDs.

It's hard for me to do it, still not sure whether it's latency or whatnot, or maybe it's me >_>

Ichi's 30 Seconds into Adv. Dragoon Opener.

Things to note:
1. Did not use any kind of potions, in the real deal, I will, though.
2. Disembowel is clipped for a bit.
3. GK usage isn't as smooth as the one in Dervy's.
4. Battle Litany isn't in effect, despite the animation is already in motion.

I hope you guys can help me find the cause!

Latency.

http://www.wowinterface.com/download...atencyFix.html

https://www.wtfast.com/

Hopefully this helps you.