How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Jonnycbad]

30% increase to Jump would be a 260 potency attack, no? Still would be weaker than Full Thrust. I never used it on Jump unless a target is at like 1-2% and I just finished a combo, and Power Surge and Life Surge are both up, i'll stack them both on jump just to get a big hit. Or while doing atma books, I would just one shot mobs with PS+LS Jump then run to the next spawn(in the case of spawns that were spread out far).

[SunnyHirose]

Every now and then, I have to carefully evaluate which pieces I will never actually glam. But a good portion of my DRG gear collection is actually soldiery pieces I've been wanting to turn in for seals for months now.

[HaelseMikiro]

for anyone more concerned with hotbar space than the dps loss from using a macro, I've already got this one made and saved on my DRG to test out

/micon "Blood of the Dragon"
/ac "Fang and Claw" <t>
/ac "Wheeling Thrust" <t>
/ac "Blood of the Dragon"

just a standard priority macro that will use FC or WT if you have the required buffs to use them, and pop BotD if you don't. Once people have working parsers and level 58+ we can see exactly how much of a loss it is.

[Avalios]

for anyone more concerned with hotbar space than the dps loss from using a macro, I've already got this one made and saved on my DRG to test out

/micon "Blood of the Dragon"
/ac "Fang and Claw" <t>
/ac "Wheeling Thrust" <t>
/ac "Blood of the Dragon"

just a standard priority macro that will use FC or WT if you have the required buffs to use them, and pop BotD if you don't. Once people have working parsers and level 58+ we can see exactly how much of a loss it is.

Having one GCD macro'd will make very little difference, it's when you have them all as macros it becomes painfully obvious that you are attacking slower.
I think having Fang and claw + wheeling thrust macrod together will be quite common even at high end play regardless of what the elitists will come in here and say, but i personally wouldn't add blood into it. To use a macro'd GCD you have to spam the button to get it to go off as quickly as you can from previous GCDs end because a macro does not Que up the next attack the way a non macro does which will end up popping your blood when you dont want it to.

[Jonnycbad]

Someone told me on here a few weeks ago they were implementing a new hotbar option for people who use controllers. I really don't want to touch my mouse or keyboard while DPSing with my controller, and I can't play with only a keyboard/mouse, as FFXIV is the only PC game I play, I'm a console gamer at heart...I need a gamepad. Problem is I already use all my L2,R2, and L2+R2 slots on existing abilities.

[ish007xx]

nice new thread for the drg cant wait for tomorrow to test them new skills

[SunnyHirose]

Just occurred to me that Life Surge is back to being awkward. Not that we weren't going to have to rethink it, but if you have appreciable skill speed (and I suspect we'll probably want that now, so HT isn't always falling off momentarily), you will run into trouble trying to use it every other Full Thrust.

[Thendiel]

30% increase to Jump would be a 260 potency attack, no? Still would be weaker than Full Thrust. I never used it on Jump unless a target is at like 1-2% and I just finished a combo, and Power Surge and Life Surge are both up, i'll stack them both on jump just to get a big hit. Or while doing atma books, I would just one shot mobs with PS+LS Jump then run to the next spawn(in the case of spawns that were spread out far).

I very rarely used Life Surge with Jump, either. But if Jump is buffed multiplicatively by both Power Surge and Blood of the Dragon, it will come to 200 x 1.50 x 1.30 = 390 base potency, which should outperform Full Thrust slightly. I still think that LS+FT would have been ideal to avoid cutting into the GCD timer, personally, but some were suggesting that PS+LS+J was going to be the optimum approach in 3.0. This change to Life Surge settles the issue, and means that we don't have to bother crunching numbers to weigh the two possibilities against each other.

Just occurred to me that Life Surge is back to being awkward. Not that we weren't going to have to rethink it, but if you have appreciable skill speed (and I suspect we'll probably want that now, so HT isn't always falling off momentarily), you will run into trouble trying to use it every other Full Thrust.

That might be true, but it's also worth mentioning that LS+Wheeling Thrust and LS+Fang and Claw might be viable substitutes for LS+Full Thrust, depending on how the timing works out. At 290 potency, they're substantially more comparable to Full Thrust than Chaos Thrust was. I could easily see, e.g., Life Surge becoming available immediately after a Full Thrust but before a Wheeling Thrust, in which case I'd presumably pop it for Wheeling.

[RachaelMarie22]

I'm just hoping AST's Time Dilation works for blood for blood...but I guess if it was for other classes' buffs that would be too OP..

[Hyrist]

My real concern is the timing balancing between ------gul usage and Blood of the Dragon maintenance. There's bound to be a mathmatic setup that dictates exactly how many of these things we can use and still keep gul up long enough to re-apply, if I'm reading these skills correctly.