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    Dervy's Avatar
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    We started out with MNK on walker but they do have slightly better sustainable AoE and I think the group is wanting me to run machine. I don't care, whatever gets it done, but being on ps4 w/ controller it's absolutely terrible trying to select enemies (in particular bombs in this fight) in a big group. So I'm not looking forward to it lol
    Hi-five for Gobbyslaves!
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    TheKingSlayer's Avatar
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    Older King
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 70
    L1 and up or down to select bomb from enemy list. I'm on PS4 and I've doing well with it. The 8th phase sucks cause there are more mobs so bomb won't show up on enmity list. I tell group to stack all together on a spot to minimize drops in the crowd. Worse comes to worse whm fluid aura can knock it out during that phase.
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    Friends don't let friends Dragoon

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    Sparhawk6's Avatar
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    Mirena Angelrose
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Guys I want ask a question. We cleared A1s but dps was like blm mnk and I as drg 80 dps behind the mnk. But I cast lb3 and lb 1 on oposite bosses and died to laser after lb1 at the end. Do you think that it can be reason of drop 80 dps? Thanks for opinion and sorry for my english
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    Leananshee's Avatar
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    Leananshee Demonreach
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Our NIN is controlling the Gobbiewalker (or Fun thing as we like to call it). My group just hit A2S yesterday after finally getting the clear as a group - Prior to that we cleared A1S with 6/8 members. Still it looks fun Reminds me a lot of T4.

    In regards to gear, i went with boots and will get the neck as soon as i finish capping for this week (already have weapon and belt), I found that getting the chest or legs put me too much out of either acc or ss so opted for too much of either or both over too less. I know food is an option but our cook hasn't gotten up to level yet and its rather expensive especially while we're learning fights. Means i'll have to save for another 2 weeks before i get the smexy chest though :/ Although i did get lucky and got the Gord Ring...that might change things up a little - haven't looked yet :O
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Should I save legsweep and Jumps for Disembowel? Like if I just killed a mob and I'm running to the next, and Jump and Leg are the only oGCD ready, should I use them as soon as I can, or wait for ID>Dis first for the 10%?
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    RaidenJetstream's Avatar
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    Leonhard Lovecraft
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Is there such a thing as a skill speed cap?

    Because I'm currently using skill speed food for raiding and I'm afraid I might be capped.

    Is there a raid food with focus on critical rate?
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Should I save legsweep and Jumps for Disembowel? Like if I just killed a mob and I'm running to the next, and Jump and Leg are the only oGCD ready, should I use them as soon as I can, or wait for ID>Dis first for the 10%?
    In terms of potency / time, the break-even point for whether to use a skill before or after a buff is the buff's effect times the cooldown.

    Example: Leg Sweep immediately is the same potency / time as Leg Sweep with Disembowel but 2 seconds later. Unless Disembowel is the first available GCD or there are other buffs to activate, use Leg Sweep immediately after your next GCD.

    Jump needs 3 seconds for Disembowel to pay off. So, it's more or less the same deal as Leg Sweep, but with the added caveat that you should continue into Chaos Thrust to get the benefit of Disembowel without halting GCDs, and even then you're cutting it really close to 3 seconds if you are latency-free. However! Power Surge is a bigger thing to be waiting on.

    Spineshatter Dive and Dragonfire Dive need 6 seconds and 12 seconds respectively, so waiting for Disembowel is better potency than using it before.

    Exercise 1: Will holding out for Heavy Thrust pay off?

    If you don't have a combo to finish, sure. It's only one GCD, and the acceptable amount of time to hold for 15% is longer than for 10%, after which you can revert to the 10% calculations above, provided there is no IR or BfB to pop. Technically, losing Heavy Thrust is a bit worse than losing Blood of the Dragon in a general sense. In a practical sense, it rarely ever comes down to one or the other for more than a few seconds.


    Exercise 2: Will Blood of the Dragon pay off?

    ahahahahahaha this is above my pay grade


    In practical terms, though:
    - Whoever uses a skill the most times usually wins. Fights don't usually give you enough time for small potency gains to be noticeable over getting more uses.
    - Whoever uses a skill that causes their own death usually loses.
    - Whoever saves a gap closer for a good reason has diminished ~1.8% [Spineshatter] or ~1.1% [Dragonfire] of theoretical dummy DPS to save the >92% that has to be done up close. Uptime is the strongest buff in the game, period. (And lots of boss rotations sync up with cooldown timers anyway.)
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    TheKingSlayer's Avatar
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    Older King
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Uptime is the strongest buff in the game, period.
    Sunny, I'm stealing this quote and passing it off as my own. It's only fair I let you know.
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingSlayer View Post
    L1 and up or down to select bomb from enemy list. I'm on PS4 and I've doing well with it. The 8th phase sucks cause there are more mobs so bomb won't show up on enmity list. I tell group to stack all together on a spot to minimize drops in the crowd. Worse comes to worse whm fluid aura can knock it out during that phase.
    Thanks, King. I'll try that out next attempts. I remember hearing about that a long time ago but never got use to using it as I changed the target settings to only select enemies and party members when weapon is drawn (I think other objects were included with that) but that solved a lot of targeting issues. No weapon drawn for gobwalking tho >.<

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Should I save legsweep and Jumps for Disembowel? Like if I just killed a mob and I'm running to the next, and Jump and Leg are the only oGCD ready, should I use them as soon as I can, or wait for ID>Dis first for the 10%?
    I personally blow leg sweep whenever, I do try to be conscious of doing too much before disembowel is up tho.

    Nice new video you added!
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