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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    So, regarding the AoE rotation, i came to this :

    pick a primary target and do this : Battle Litany --> Heavy Thrust --> Blood for Blood --> Ring of Thorns --> Internal Release --> Doomspike --> Dragonfire Dive --> DS --> Blood of the Dragon --> DS --> Power Surge --> DS --> Jump --> DS --> Spineshatter Dive --> DS --> Motivation --> Repeat.

    What do you think ?
    Sorry for the repost but I really would like some thoughts from you guys XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    Sorry for the repost but I really would like some thoughts from you guys XD
    What is motivation?

    Also, I did this and used invigorate where motivation is since I'm assuming that's what you meant. As a whole I prefer to just single target and cycle through enemies while blasting geirskoguls as they're available. I find it's far more tp efficient. In AS2 I never use Doomspike simply for the fact that I don't know how available a paeon will be and I need to conserve as much tp as possible

    @Kaldea, I did 947 on AS1 but I'm at 140-180 ping. I think a significant amount of damage loss from Dragoons comes from the adds and how quickly you can get back on the boss. Saving gap closers is ideal but not always a solution if resin baiting went awry. If you'd like Id be happy to discuss specific scenarios on that fight. I'm always looking to improve or help others.
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    Last edited by Vincent_Mateus; 08-05-2015 at 07:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent_Mateus View Post
    What is motivation?

    Also, I did this and used invigorate where motivation is since I'm assuming that's what you meant. As a whole I prefer to just single target and cycle through enemies while blasting geirskoguls as they're available. I find it's far more tp efficient. In AS2 I never use Doomspike simply for the fact that I don't know how available a paeon will be and I need to conserve as much tp as possible

    @Kaldea, I did 947 on AS1 but I'm at 140-180 ping. I think a significant amount of damage loss from Dragoons comes from the adds and how quickly you can get back on the boss. Saving gap closers is ideal but not always a solution if resin baiting went awry. If you'd like Id be happy to discuss specific scenarios on that fight. I'm always looking to improve or help others.
    Yeah I meant Invigorate, it's Motivation in french >_> Sorry.
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    No worries, translations vary.
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    So I see the min. sks requirement on the OP went from 58x to 57x. Is there a reason this changed or just found out 57x is enough? Also thanks again for this thread Dervy, this should help me catch up on my dragoon skills. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    So I see the min. sks requirement on the OP went from 58x to 57x. Is there a reason this changed or just found out 57x is enough? Also thanks again for this thread Dervy, this should help me catch up on my dragoon skills. ^^
    Actually, it's currently 590, because of the necessity for our GCD to be 2.4 seconds, allowing Gierskogul to be used with 22 seconds left at the time of BotD refresh to get back around to our 4th ability safely.
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    Well the BiS for 624-64x acc only has 571 sks in the OP. The acc cap for A3 and A4 are for sure in that range. I just switched to dragoon, so Im behind on gear and trying to see what I need to obtain.
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    get your weapon ROFL

    you don't gotta figure out anything until 3 weeks later
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    actually yeah your skillspeed things are weird

    you have

    WD STR ACC CRT DET SS GCD DPS Weight
    76 1079 624 858 442 634 2.396 1486.874505 1728.292

    WD STR ACC CRT DET SS GCD DPS Weight
    76 1079 624 858 481 576 2.396 1485.933072 1727.894

    hows the gcd same
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    hows the gcd same
    Typo. Opps. I was copy-pasting a lot of things.

    Anyway, I've been fiddling around with my Model and playing with 570 SS even in savage for the past few days, which is 2.418 GCD. Risky, but doable.

    The only issue is that it really does require strict timing, clever use of your gap closers to ensure you're not delaying GCDs and knowledge of when to drop Phlebotomize/Heavy Thrust in favour for BotD up-time. You have to play the job perfectly with 570 skillspeed.

    Having said that, from what I've heard of A3S, for Dragoons, I do not believe it'll work. If there's a DRG in A3S pls try it with 570ish SS for giggles and see what it feels like. No need for mechanics spoilers and ruin it for the World 1st Club, just "yes, no"... So I might scrap that.

    Either way, they're just the sets for the Accuracy Ranges, and as we don't know what the Accuracy Requirements are, they pretty much mean nothing and are there to look pretty. The only set that's "confirmed" for A1S is the first set, as the accuracy range for that set is like 570-596, and the A1S accuracy is between 587-590.

    Monk had 586 with Flint Caviars and had 98% accuracy.

    But yeah, I posted the "less risky" set on the OP if you want to take a look at it.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-04-2015 at 07:00 PM.

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