How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Dragonpuff]

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The reason I ask is because I was playing around with possible BiS setups for dragoon on Ariyala using the stat weights in the OP and pandabearcat's dragoon sim and this is the best possible set I could come up with. It's worth noting I played around with swapping out the boots and the spear, and doing either netted about a 40 dps loss by the sim. My only concern is it's a bit higher than the soft cap mentioned in the OP, but I assume it's still within the acceptable range because trying to find stat weights with that value reveals that adding skill speed actually decreases dps.

I guess it could also be a quirk with the sim, but until I see some compelling evidence otherwise I think this is what i'm gonna shoot for personally.

[Dunncan]

Idk about that, I mean really it's almost like it accepts that I hit 4th but then BotD and the proc buff fall off before it executes the action/animation and it cancels it. To me it feels like a rounding problem, like the timer reads 21 sec but it's actually 20.5. Because it's literally like 1/2 sec from being able to execute. 21 sec should be enough time, even 20.5 theoretically should be. But for whatever reason it screws me at 21 sec. I don't usually have lag problems, using hardwired cat 6 with 50mbps connection.

I had exactly the same situation last night. But, with a lil more "information". I have been able to do the rotation with no worries with something like 620 SS. Than, last night, many of my static members were suffering with high latency spikes and, even with my WTFast saying I was in a pretty much stable 140ish ms ping, this same situation started ocurring.

By the end of the night, I was without HQ foods, and my SS droped by 8. By that time, I was able, again, to hit GK with 21sec without a problem.

That made me think of something. Is there a way that we can calculate directly how much SS someone need in order to compensate latency? I mean, X SS for 1ms.

[enil]

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The default rotation for DRG that the sim came with was slightly incorrect - I'm not sure if this has been fixed or you customized it yourself but you might want to make sure it's doing the rotation correctly. Are you using the sim's new feature of a randomised fight time (and what sim time were you using)? SkS dps gain is heavily impacted by how many extra GCD's it get's you - a short enough fight may not even give you any extra GCD's or a fixed fight time might be biased to either gaining or losing a GCD.

edit: fight jitter hasn't been implemeted, you might want to do test manually by varying sim time to see the average weighting for SkS.

[Zencurse]

Greetings Dragoon community, just curious what are Dragoon's potential in full 180 with a hive weapon on a dummy?

[Aiurily]

1220 +- 15 dps with draco pot/party buff/food

[Zencurse]

1220 +- 15 dps with draco pot/party buff/food

Thanks! /char

[rickyguo]

I got the i180 crafted drg chest and now I got 744 skillspeed.

cry for me boys.

[SunnyHirose]

As far as I know there are no stupid questions and only stupid answers, so I'd like to ask how do I calculate skill speed?
Because I am rather confused as to what amount of Skill Speed will bring me to what sort of GCD number.

The formula on the first page is confirmed accurate to within 3 significant figures up to 625.

I got the i180 crafted drg chest and now I got 744 skillspeed.

cry for me boys.

Now you can really get the most out of that Deep-Fried Okeanis.

[Dervy]

and doing either netted about a 40 dps loss by the sim. My only concern is it's a bit higher than the soft cap mentioned in the OP, but I assume it's still within the acceptable range because trying to find stat weights with that value reveals that adding skill speed actually decreases dps.

Yup. Skillspeed is a huge loss after 660 SS. And I believe it was Enil who found an issue with how SimFF handles DoT clipping with the DRG rotation.

Anyway, I've updated OP with a new Skillspeed Damage Mod.

EDIT: Between 652 -> 754ish Skillspeed, you'll be on a deficit for each point of SS to gain

[Viridiana]

Yup. Skillspeed is a huge loss after 660 SS. And I believe it was Enil who found an issue with how SimFF handles DoT clipping with the DRG rotation.

Anyway, I've updated OP with a new Skillspeed Damage Mod.

Dervy's back!

*Gestures towards SimFF thread*

>_>