Removing EXP from dungeon critters?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

The way you have been trash talking the game and especially the new expansion on the forums I'd say you dislike the game period. While I'Lm on the topic of it, if you don't like the way the game is being developped why do you keep playing? Vote with your money, be an adult about it and stop complaining like a spoiled brat and just quit. Leave the rest of us who enjoy the game as it is play and read the forums without seeing you bitch and moan every 5 mins.

Yet, the Japanese forums stated the same issue I have and the developers are trying to take care of it.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...98%E8%81%B7%29

I am not saying the game is terrible. I am suggesting changes to make it a better game, if I can't speak my mind about things what is the point of a forum to begin with? NOTHING is perfect, Developers are NOT perfect. They are people just like you and I.

[Squrilruler]

Yet, the Japanese forums stated the same issue I have and the developers are trying to take care of it.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...98%E8%81%B7%29

I am not saying the game is terrible. I am suggesting changes to make it a better game, if I can't speak my mind about things what is the point of a forum to begin with? NOTHING is perfect, Developers are NOT perfect. They are people just like you and I.

You're OP was figuratively "they are now worthless". There was not a single drop of constructive criticism or suggestive changes. Literally just whining. That is why you are getting this backlash.

[Noxifer]

I never minded those "1st room only" runs even if I never cared to do that myself... As long as it's done via party finder, to get a full group of like-minded, I think it's a great thing. But to go in via DF and then just leave once you got what you came for? Not even counting the 30 minute lockout for leaving (which doesn't really sound efficient), that's a really shitty thing to do when you don't know if the others in the group are there for the same reason.

That said, I still think it's a pretty good change. Personally, I've never minded the "slaughter everything in sight" approach if there are two or more in the group still levelling -- I ended up in Brayflox normal the other day on a low roulette with three levelling people, and we killed everything. (I do ask people "go straight for the boss, or kill everything for moar exp?", and if people say "straight to boss, please", I'll go with that of course.) But I can understand that not everyone is of that opinion and would rather skip as many of the mobs as possible to make it a shorter run. And for those runs, the people still levelling now get more exp than they would have previously.

[Shai]

All I could get was one story about a tank leaving after the first room, but honestly I took that as an issue of poor communication than anything else.

No, this happened all the time.


I even reported 2 people for vote kicking the PUGs (so they could leave with impunity). I was one PUG and it wasn't their first offense. I needed AV for my relic item and right at the boss pull I had the both of them say "Goodbye!" to the other DPS then they kicked him (I voted nay) and then they kicked me. Then I'm sure they did it again to whomever else they got. I know this wasn't some isolated incident. I've had Monks just drop after 1st rooms of DD. I've had tanks drop all the time after first pulls cause hey why not.

This happened to me (and I'm just one person) in 2 different dungeons about 3-4 times in the last six months.

I don't really think SE cared very much if 4 ppl entered a dungeon and pulled a giant pull and left. I think it crossed a line when people started abusing the DF system and harming the chances of players legitimately getting clears. I'm sure this is why this was changed.

[Luvbunny]

I think they should go even harsher and put the last boss with the biggest XP of them all LOL, this way people have to clear the entire dungeon. Anything and everything to prevent speed runners or those abusive people trying to take advantage the system for the sake of "speed leveling everything".

Honestly, if you are in low level dungeon trying to get XP, you are far better off killing every single creature there. Why skip them? Isn't the point you are there is to level up and not skipping every mobs so you can get less xp?

[Core1019]

I think they should go even harsher and put the last boss with the biggest XP of them all LOL, this way people have to clear the entire dungeon. Anything and everything to prevent speed runners or those abusive people trying to take advantage the system for the sake of "speed leveling everything

Bit of a contradiction here. If they put that much on last boss, why bother killing any trash at all. Speedrun the shit out of the dungeons in that case.

Or, maybe, ya know... don't try to enforce your playstyle on others? Dungeons, to me, are boring as hell. Whatever makes leveling through them less painful, I'll take.

[sirDarts]

Bit of a contradiction here. If they put that much on last boss, why bother killing any trash at all. Speedrun the shit out of the dungeons in that case.

Or, maybe, ya know... don't try to enforce your playstyle on others? Dungeons, to me, are boring as hell. Whatever makes leveling through them less painful, I'll take.

Soooooo, why are you playing the game? Why are you getting to max level?
That doesn't really make sense. The reason you want to get to end-game is to run end-game dungeons. Yet you hate running dungeons.
So yeah... WHAT? O.o

[Aryalandi]

It is a good solution to the issue of people going in with the mindset that they will just walk in do the first room then leave and potentially make things harder for the party they were in, this encourages people to kill everything in the dungeon to get the exp that they want and to play dungeons the way that they were supposed to be played.. don't like the change? Fate run.

Some people are going through dungeons for the first time and need a party that is actually going to stick around for the whole thing..

[Core1019]

Soooooo, why are you playing the game? Why are you getting to max level?
That doesn't really make sense. The reason you want to get to end-game is to run end-game dungeons. Yet you hate running dungeons.
So yeah... WHAT? O.o

Not endgame dungeons, primal fights and coil are what I like... And hopefully non-joke-mode Alex too. The dungeons are just an unfortunate necessity to gear up for those.

[Aryalandi]

Not endgame dungeons, primal fights and coil are what I like... And hopefully non-joke-mode Alex too. The dungeons are just an unfortunate necessity to gear up for those.

Actually as far as i can tell each dungeon had a story/history as well. One that can be fun to learn in fact. And most of the time you don't learn much from the very first room of a dungeon