Removing EXP from dungeon critters?

[Eidolon]

People are already speedrunning now, avoiding most packs they can, or just nuking several packs at once.
Now this strat will loot them more experience, thus also looting more experience for the new players.

People will prefer having DPS with AoE in their group? They already do.

We speed run at level 50. Not for leveling dungouns, dont' apply the level 50 lgoci to the leveling process.

Right now, there are two ways to run level 50 dungouns:
1) For a clear, which involves the sacpulls we used to use in 2.0 AK
2) For EXP, which involves killing monsters on the way or, yea, doing "First Room" style.

Now, if we make all the groups the second one, players who are leveling will see less EXP because people will want to skip to bosses, who are the most lucrative now...

Edit-in: Mind you, the exception is AK first room runs because of the fact that the crystal's light gives you such a substantial damage mitigation buff that you CAN tank AoE. However, try doing a -mass-ve pull in any pre-50 dungoun similar to what we do post-50. You'll find it's not quite as easy...

[Garlyle]

Its about the EPM. It is much easier to do fates then to do dungeons, especially chain fates. Which are 5 minutes and worth more then an entire duty finger which can take up to an hour.

If that were true, dungeons right now wouldn't be worth doing over FATEs.

It's still the same length of time for the same amount of EXP.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

If that were true, dungeons right now wouldn't be worth doing over FATEs.

It's still the same length of time for the same amount of EXP.

No, because DD with a premade group gives 45k xp every 2 minutes. It is just hard to do. For someone whose played since 2013, you sure don't know much about the game. There is no wait time either, unlike fate grinding in which you have to run/wait for fates to pop.

Now, i'm out. No point, nothing I will say will change the game anyways. I will have to find a new way to play with my friends I guess <3

[sirDarts]

We speed run at level 50. Not for leveling dungouns, dont' apply the level 50 lgoci to the leveling process.

Right now, there are two ways to run level 50 dungouns:
1) For a clear, which involves the sacpulls we used to use in 2.0 AK
2) For EXP, which involves killing monsters on the way or, yea, doing "First Room" style.

Now, if we make all the groups the second one, players who are leveling will see less EXP because people will want to skip to bosses, who are the most lucrative now...

Level 50 people are in low level dungeons, mainly due to roulette, and they will speedrun. Now speedrun will give more exp than before. A full clear will give the same exp than before = you don't get screwed when you are leveling and your group speedruns as much.

What? Skip bosses?! You make no sense. Bosses are where the EXP is, why would you want to skip bosses? O.o

[Eidolon]

Level 50 people are in low level dungeons, mainly due to roulette, and they will speedrun. Now speedrun will give more exp than before. A full clear will give the same exp than before = you don't get screwed when you are leveling and your group speedruns as much.

What? Skip bosses?! You make no sense. Bosses are where the EXP is, why would you want to skip bosses? O.o

Skip -to- bosses, as in skipping the bulk of the monsters and going to the bosses to get the maximum exp/hour

Edit-in: Wanna clarify...
A level 50 may be in low level roulette, but due to the nature of level synch, they are not strong enough to do massive pulls. I find most tanks+healers even level synched will struggle with groups of 2 pulls. This often is less effective than pulling single groups. The low-level content while level synched is surprisingly well-balanced for group vs. monsters.

However, you're thinking in terms of post-50, where people can pull the entire dungoun before a boss and straight-tank it with decent use of mitigation.

[AskaRay]

No, because DD with a premade group gives 45k xp every 2 minutes.

It honestly doesn't matter how fast I level up.. oh I shaved off three minutes to get to level 51? Big whoop.
I personally hate FATE leveling so I never do it exclusively... and I'm probably far from the only one. I mean if that's how you like to play the game, then, fine... I wouldn't particularly enjoy a party member like you anyway.

[KarstenS]

Yea.. lowered, not removed. They just gave bosses more xp to eliminate those who were using the first room of a dungeon to xp and then leave and do said dungeon again.

ALSO it give leveling players the chance to get good exp even when they get teamed up with players that just want to finish the inscance for a quest or relic item and are not clearing the whole instance.

[Viridiana]

Some times you just have to call your friends fat, to help them get a better body. If you just tell them they look good all the time your lying to them. Lying is bad.

If lying is bad, how do you explain this doozy from one of your posts a few months back?

Now lets use our brains for a second ok?


Me: "Talks about how awesome of a time he has had in X Game."

Friend: "Wow, that sounds like a great game! You seem to be having a lot of fun in this game, and the new content sounds awesome! They are raising the level cap so I have a chance to play with you right?"

Me: "Pauses... reddens.."

Friend: "Whats wrong?"

Me: "Sorry, but I won't be able to play with you for awhile."

Friend: "Uhm.. but that sounds ridiculous, why?"

Me: "*Huge Breathe..* First you have to complete all the story content, then you have to get a certain ilvl, then after 50 you need to complete about 150-180 more quests, even more then you had to do to level 50. Then after that you have to complete the level 50-60 quests all whilst playing with pugs and new players since nobody really needs to do most of that content anymore."

Friend: ".... Enjoy your game man."

Face it guys, OP is a troll.

[Garlyle]

No, because DD with a premade group gives 45k xp every 2 minutes. It is just hard to do. For someone whose played since 2013, you sure don't know much about the game.

Ah, so this IS about "but my DD first room farms". Trust me, I know all about them.

And my answer is, deal. It was specifically expressed during the reading that they wanted to get rid of that.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

It honestly doesn't matter how fast I level up.. oh I shaved off three minutes to get to level 51? Big whoop.
I personally hate FATE leveling so I never do it exclusively... and I'm probably far from the only one. I mean if that's how you like to play the game, then, fine... I wouldn't particularly enjoy a party member like you anyway.

I hate waiting. Unlike most people I work until I get the job done. Sitting on my bum and waiting is NOT fun nore challenging. However the rush you get from constantly pulling a room and almost dying is fun to me. I am glad you cept your lazy playstyle. =)

Ah, so this IS about "but my DD first room farms". Trust me, I know all about them.

And my answer is, deal. It was specifically expressed during the reading that they wanted to get rid of that.

Well, I guess they will also "deal" with the consequences of removing it too. GG

This change will only make the community worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul_ymJdF7O8

Its like they want to remove the awesome play-style of gaming... =(