Removing EXP from dungeon critters?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

No, I just dislike stupid development decisions. People don't learn from Guild Wars 2's Failures. I hate "speed clearing" I want monsters to be worth experience and give loot. I want to kill the entire dungeon. However it seems people don't want that.

Mobs inside dungeons have way more health then mobs outside, and the same experience? That makes them useless, their entire existence is meant to be skipped now.

[Garlyle]

No, I just dislike stupid development decisions. People don't learn from Guild Wars 2's Failures. I hate "speed clearing" I want monsters to be worth experience and give loot. I want to kill the entire dungeon. However it seems people don't want that.

Oh, I don't doubt the trash will still be worth clearing - but they want to get away from "you only stay in the dungeon for 5 minutes". They moved away from it when Brayflox HM runs through the first two bosses were a thing for Soldiery by shifting where the tomestones were being given, and they wanted to emphasize away from it here. Because there's already one post illustrating the problem - worse than speedruns skipping a few optional encounters are players who leave others hanging because they "got what they wanted" and left, simply because the rest was a comparative waste of time. Especially when talking about content people actually need to clear to progress.

Most low-level dungeons aren't designed to be speedrun anyway, honestly - trash is everywhere and trying to make a huge pull is suffering.

I doubt the EXP for bosses will be big enough to compensate for -all- the mobs they're reducing, and I feel like SE made a huge mistake with this one.

They straight up said in the patch notes the total EXP isn't changing.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Oh, I don't doubt the trash will still be worth clearing - but they want to get away from "you only stay in the dungeon for 5 minutes". They moved away from it when Brayflox HM runs through the first two bosses were a thing for Soldiery by shifting where the tomestones were being given, and they wanted to emphasize away from it here. Because there's already one post illustrating the problem - worse than speedruns skipping a few optional encounters are players who leave others hanging because they "got what they wanted" and left, simply because the rest was a comparative waste of time. Especially when talking about content people actually need to clear to progress.

Most low-level dungeons aren't designed to be speedrun anyway, honestly - trash is everywhere and trying to make a huge pull is suffering.

They straight up said in the patch notes the total EXP isn't changing.

Well, now instead of helping my friends do dungeons because I know they are worth good experience. I will tell them to go run fates instead. I will also refuse to group with them because they are a waste of time, and fates are faster. It also nerfs several abilities I liked on my Warrior. Why even be a warrior now if I can't massive pull anymore? I will be a paladin and skip.

A few bad apples in a video game. Big freaking deal. A hammer was smashed in a fun play-style because of a few exploiters and whiners. They should make their own groups if they can't deal with a bad matchmaker.

[AskaRay]

Well, now instead of helping my friends do dungeons because I know they are worth good experience. I will tell them to go run fates instead. I will also refuse to group with them because they are a waste of time, and fates are faster. It also nerfs several abilities I liked on my Warrior. Why even be a warrior now if I can't massive pull anymore? I will be a paladin and skip.

A few bad apples in a video game. Big freaking deal. A hammer was smashed in a fun play-style because of a few exploiters and whiners. They should make their own groups if they can't deal with a bad matchmaker.

So you'd rather be a jerk and not help your friends.. interesting.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

So you'd rather be a jerk and not help your friends.. interesting.

I am helping them, by doing things faster so we can do fun content and not worry about stupid levels <3 Leveling isn't fun for me, its a waste of time.

Killing hundreds of mobs for experience, however was fun for me. Very fun, made me feel powerful. Now I feel like a coward skipping it.

Some times you just have to call your friends fat, to help them get a better body. If you just tell them they look good all the time your lying to them. Lying is bad.

Yes, it does encourage speedrunning. But it discourages room-1 farming.
Speedrunning is not a bad thing, as long as all the players in the group are able to handle it.
Room-1 farming is a terrible thing.

So they nerfed a 20% faster way that caused barely any stress or lag to the server. So now we will have hundreds of people instead fighting for fates! YEAH!

[Garlyle]

Well, now instead of helping my friends do dungeons because I know they are worth good experience. I will tell them to go run fates instead. I will also refuse to group with them because they are a waste of time

Have you been reading? Dungeons are still worth the exact same amount of experience they always were. Which is to say worth a hell of a lot more than FATEs.

Also shows how much of a 'friend' you are if you're not willing to help someone out because it isn't your personal Most Efficient Option.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Have you been reading? Dungeons are still worth the exact same amount of experience they always were. Which is to say worth a hell of a lot more than FATEs.

Also shows how much of a 'friend' you are if you're not willing to help someone out because it isn't your personal Most Efficient Option.

Its about the EPM. It is much easier to do fates then to do dungeons, especially chain fates. Which are 5 minutes and worth more then an entire duty finger which can take up to an hour.

[Garlyle]

Its about the EPM. It is much easier to do fates then to do dungeons, especially chain fates. Which are 5 minutes and worth more then an entire duty finger which can take up to an hour.

If that were true, dungeons right now wouldn't be worth doing over FATEs.

It's still the same length of time for the same amount of EXP.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

If that were true, dungeons right now wouldn't be worth doing over FATEs.

It's still the same length of time for the same amount of EXP.

No, because DD with a premade group gives 45k xp every 2 minutes. It is just hard to do. For someone whose played since 2013, you sure don't know much about the game. There is no wait time either, unlike fate grinding in which you have to run/wait for fates to pop.

Now, i'm out. No point, nothing I will say will change the game anyways. I will have to find a new way to play with my friends I guess <3

[Viridiana]

Some times you just have to call your friends fat, to help them get a better body. If you just tell them they look good all the time your lying to them. Lying is bad.

If lying is bad, how do you explain this doozy from one of your posts a few months back?

Now lets use our brains for a second ok?


Me: "Talks about how awesome of a time he has had in X Game."

Friend: "Wow, that sounds like a great game! You seem to be having a lot of fun in this game, and the new content sounds awesome! They are raising the level cap so I have a chance to play with you right?"

Me: "Pauses... reddens.."

Friend: "Whats wrong?"

Me: "Sorry, but I won't be able to play with you for awhile."

Friend: "Uhm.. but that sounds ridiculous, why?"

Me: "*Huge Breathe..* First you have to complete all the story content, then you have to get a certain ilvl, then after 50 you need to complete about 150-180 more quests, even more then you had to do to level 50. Then after that you have to complete the level 50-60 quests all whilst playing with pugs and new players since nobody really needs to do most of that content anymore."

Friend: ".... Enjoy your game man."

Face it guys, OP is a troll.