Thread: Any things you don't like in the 3.0 patch notes?

Have to agree with the guy above me, I went full PIE/SS on my WHM partly cause they were gonna buff it. Regens are gonna be interesting to watch next week.

1. More currencies being introduced while making gil questionably being less useful..
2. The lootmaster system

Airships require ceruleum tanks to be deployed on exploratory voyages. They can be purchased using company credits from the resident caretaker in any of the housing districts.

I think that they made that to avoid FCs of one single player making money with the airship, but small FCs will have a hard time

Players can now hire up to eight retainers.
* Players are normally limited to two retainers per character. To hire additional retainers, please use the optional retainer service

The optional retainer service is the closest thing to P2W in this game... and now they did it bigger

Originally Posted by Niqote

What can I say, I am a SMN and a WHM and the amount of changes make me... skeptical.
My faith has been shaken on too many issues in FFXIV over the years, but like I said - I am reserving true judgement until I get in there and get real perspective ^_^


I would be most grateful if you could link the info for me, I've been too busy lately and fell out of the loop.

My concerns primarily stem from all the healers being mainstreamed (losing their identity and personal strengths) and the re balance of the stats (det, ss etc) makes me wonder if picking ans choosing your gear will become less important (only ONE set of gear will be unquestionably BIS regardless of your personal preferences)

But again, need to actually get my paws on it to know for real ^^

I can't find the exact quote from Yoshi as I don't have the time to dig around for it at the moment but I can summarise the changes:

Skillspeed and Spellspeed will not actually increase the tick speed of DoT or HoT effects but rather it will increase the potency of each tick. The result will be that the speed stats act as a second DET boost to DoTs and HoTs in addition to their previous effects in reducing cast times and GCDs. In addition to that they will also be increasing the DET of pets now, so Spellspeed on a SMN or SCH will translate to an additional DET boost for their pets. I presume Skillspeed will have the same effect on MCH pets too.

It's a rather unintuitive fix due to the ticks being based on the server clock which is why they can't speed them up. Nevertheless I actually think it's a really nice fix. The value of it will, of course, depend on the numbers but that's a simple thing to adjust if it's either too weak or too strong. At the end of the day though it is nothing but a net gain for everyone. The only potential point of contention will be if it's enough to bring SMNs up to par with BLMs.

The changes to Determination don't hurt me as Bard nor Dragoon given it's not the first nor second stat you should be working on with said Jobs. It does miff me in regards to White Mage where Piety and Determination are your bread and butter. Hope the hit isn't too substantial. As for the redistribution of experience in dungeons, those who were doing 'first room only' runs of Vale and Darkhold... you brought it on yourselves. Could have run the dungeons as normal and Square wouldn't have cared one bit. But no, you had to go and ruin it. Good job. /golfclap

Originally Posted by Gilraen

The changes to Determination don't hurt me as Bard nor Dragoon given it's not the first nor second stat you should be working on with said Jobs. It does miff me in regards to White Mage where Piety and Determination are your bread and butter. Hope the hit isn't too substantial. As for the redistribution of experience in dungeons, those who were doing 'first room only' runs of Vale and Darkhold... you brought it on yourselves. Could have run the dungeons as normal and Square wouldn't have cared one bit. But no, you had to go and ruin it. Good job. /golfclap

Where is all this talk of a DET nerf coming from?

The only change regarding determination in the notes is this:

The effect of determination on auto-attacks has been reduced.

Auto-attacks. Nothing else. It won't affect healers at all and will hopefully mean SMNs can finally stop with the book smacking in melee.

The whole point of that change is to ensure that the core damage of any job comes from their skills and not auto-attacks. The job this will hit the worst is probably PLD as they rely on their autos quite a bit in sword oath.