Any things you don't like in the 3.0 patch notes?

**Cutie_McSnuggles** · 06-17-2015 04:32 PM

There was nothing 'in' the patch notes that I didn't like, unless you want to count the new jobs starting at lv 30 instead of lv 1, but we've known about that for a while and I commented on it at the time.

But I didn't like something that wasn't in the patch notes. They didn't add in the option to default to 'commence' on controller.

Honestly, between these two things my excitement for Hevensward is now gone...

**Nektulos-Tuor** · 06-17-2015 04:35 PM

No experience in the new dungeon system. Kills incentive and fun.

**Zfz** · 06-17-2015 04:37 PM

Any tank worth their salt is already asking "exactly what" attributes, in the parry change.

Changes to other stats are announced. I fail to see how this one can't be announced...and if it's kept like this after 3.0 release, i.e. "lol test it yourself", then I seriously am going to shake my head at Yoshi-P and ask him, "WTF?"

**repoe** · 06-17-2015 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Zfz

Any tank worth their salt is already asking "exactly what" attributes, in the parry change.

Changes to other stats are announced. I fail to see how this one can't be announced...and if it's kept like this after 3.0 release, i.e. "lol test it yourself", then I seriously am going to shake my head at Yoshi-P and ask him, "WTF?"

I beleive the "theory" was dex for parry, and Str of course for block. Im assuming this is a direct result from changes made to abilities like sheild swipe

**Garlyle** · 06-17-2015 06:11 PM

My personal disappointment is that the current level 50 dungeons aren't giving EXP, unless they're run in Roulette. Which, I mean, sure, I'll happily do Roulette for EXP, and I know it helps out new players who haven't cleared those dungeons yet! Which is fantastic. But, it's going to sting when I party up for friends to help them clear those dungeons, or even for those doing those dungeons for the first time.

Originally Posted by repoe

I beleive the "theory" was dex for parry, and Str of course for block. Im assuming this is a direct result from changes made to abilities like sheild swipe

There are legit tanks who swap on Dexterity accessories because it supposedly helps them Parry.

I think you can sort of understand where this is going. It's just very awkward.

Originally Posted by Burningskull

Biggest disappointment. Probably no new ways to get materia. Still just spiritbinding nonsense. Lowering the exp on normal mobs in a dungeon cause everyone's always trying to skip them anyway. Now they'll try even harder.

The airship crafting system brings back Materia in the example screenshot. And while FC crafting is a thing that is, ultimately, FC-based... there's supposed to be personal airships in the future.

**Xenosan** · 06-17-2015 04:37 PM

Speaking of dungeons, they are reducing the XP earned from dungeon trash and moving that XP to the bosses. I guess SE doesn't like the dungeon first room zergs we've be using to level up.

Originally Posted by Zfz

Any tank worth their salt is already asking "exactly what" attributes, in the parry change.

I have the feeling it's +Strength ==> +extra Mitigation amount that's being removed. Sad.

**Zfz** · 06-17-2015 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Xenosan

Speaking of dungeons, they are reducing the XP earned from dungeon trash and moving that XP to the bosses. I guess SE doesn't like the dungeon first room zergs we've be using to level.

No need to guess. Yoshi-P specifically said they did this to kill off that kind of leveling play.

**Onikimaru** · 06-17-2015 06:16 PM

* Players are normally limited to two retainers per character. To hire additional retainers, please use the optional retainer service

Also no additions to armory space.

**Cherry_Phox** · 06-17-2015 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Onikimaru

* Players are normally limited to two retainers per character. To hire additional retainers, please use the optional retainer service

Also no additions to armory space.

I agree 100% on this. No new space for so many more jobs and specializations.

On a side note, how they deal with Free company crafting and the ability to get grade 5 materia through the Materia NPC (( forget the bugger's name )) reminds me a touch of Warfame and their Dojo and mods system.

**repoe** · 06-17-2015 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Cherry_Phox

I agree 100% on this. No new space for so many more jobs and specializations.

On a side note, how they deal with Free company crafting and the ability to get grade 5 materia through the Materia NPC (( forget the bugger's name )) reminds me a touch of Warfame and their Dojo and mods system.

No new armory slots..... welp, I guess they didnt adjust the old gear to be desynthable for nothing

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