Pay for your inventory.

[Onikimaru]

To me, even $30 a month to play FFXIV is a bargain. That's around 20 cents an hour, a far better deal than a movie or typical $60 game.

Anybody that supported this comment is part of what is wrong with the gaming industry as a whole, but let's save that for another thread

[Silverbane]

Anybody that supported this comment is part of what is wrong with the gaming industry as a whole, but let's save that for another thread

Let me put it another way: I've spent many times my subscription cost for FFXIV on the hardware I bought specifically for playing the game: specialized mouse and keyboard, new monitor with faster GtG response, upgrading to a GTX 970, and so on. And I plan to keep upgrading my hardware as time goes on (e.g. to 4K when that technology is mature).

Another $8 a month for 4 more retainers isn't going to change my FFXIV-related spending much. YMMV, but at least appreciate that spendy people like me keep Yoshida-san's corporate overlords happy.

[Adire]

Let me put it another way: I've spent many times my subscription cost for FFXIV on the hardware I bought specifically for playing the game: specialized mouse and keyboard, new monitor with faster GtG response, upgrading to a GTX 970, and so on. And I plan to keep upgrading my hardware as time goes on (e.g. to 4K when that technology is mature).

Another $8 a month for 4 more retainers isn't going to change my FFXIV-related spending much. YMMV, but at least appreciate that spendy people like me keep Yoshida-san's corporate overlords happy.

Just remember, nickle and dimeing can cost you more in the long run that up front, one time large costs. And spending a lot may keep the corporate suits happy, but remember, they are not looking out for your best interests. And in the end, they get their way if customers allow it.

The more they realize you're willing to spend on things that would have otherwise been covered by subscription fees, the more they'll lock content behind paywalls, and the more you'll have to pay for less content, since cost cutting is also part of making money as a business. They will push your limits, and until you draw a line, they will continue.

If customers are willing to pay twice as much money for half as much content as they used to get, this is what corporate suits will want. This is why we get so much less value from DLC these days in games in general, and why we now have cash shops and such in Pay to play games when previously such a thing was out of the question.

[Silverbane]

Just remember, nickle and dimeing can cost you more in the long run that up front, one time large costs. And spending a lot may keep the corporate suits happy, but remember, they are not looking out for your best interests. And in the end, they get their way if customers allow it.

I used to play another MMO so I have experienced exactly what you are talking about.

But here, we have a marquee IP and, importantly, Yoshida-san. I believe the FFXIV team are artists who take pride in their accomplishments, not just salaried drones. I will risk $30 a month that they aren't just milking me for $$$.

But the minute they stop providing me with $30 worth of entertainment every month, I'll go look elsewhere. I won't repeat the mistake I made with my last MMO, where I was constantly disappointed by the game and the devs but stayed out of a sense of obligation to my raid group.

[Onikimaru]

Let me put it another way: I've spent many times my subscription cost for FFXIV on the hardware I bought specifically for playing the game: specialized mouse and keyboard, new monitor with faster GtG response, upgrading to a GTX 970, and so on. And I plan to keep upgrading my hardware as time goes on (e.g. to 4K when that technology is mature).

Another $8 a month for 4 more retainers isn't going to change my FFXIV-related spending much. YMMV, but at least appreciate that spendy people like me keep Yoshida-san's corporate overlords happy.

Yeah sure not for you as long as you are ok that's fine right?

[Welsper59]

Yeah sure not for you as long as you are ok that's fine right?

To be fair though, it really is just an optional service. One that you can pay the in-between (don't have to go for max retainers) or just not use at all. Hoarding, even in a video game (an RPG, no less), is still a bad habit lol. The only true issue is how it contradicts the excuses we were given in the past about inventory and/or proper armoire expansion. Even if it were 1 more retainer for free or them expanding the armoire a little, it would have at least shown a bit of understanding towards the issue. Instead of doing what can easily be taken as lying to find an excuse to give to find more ways to make players pay for more things in a P2P game, even if there might be legit unknown reasons. "The dog ate my homework!"

Again, not a big deal as far as offering additional optional services, but it can become a far bigger deal when you contradict yourself to make it seem like you're innocent and caring LOL.

[Silverbane]

Yeah sure not for you as long as you are ok that's fine right?

I would not presume to speak for other people.

But please recall that this is a game, a luxury item, and as with any luxury item, there is nothing morally or ethically wrong with the seller asking people to pay as much as the market will bear for it.

[IceWing]

there is nothing morally or ethically wrong with the seller asking people to pay as much as the market will bear for it.

That's what most of the posts here are getting at. Those of us who posted are either on the side of "We refuse to accept this as a way to alleviate the inventory issue and will not pay this, or can not pay this" or "Deal with it they charge what ever the f they want. If you don't want to pay for it, then you don't get it."

[KayoZ]

"Deal with it they charge what ever the f they want. If you don't want to pay for it, then you don't get it."

Yup, and its those people with that mindset which are responsible for what the gaming industry has become lately. Its just sad. Of course theyd probably just proudly say something along the lines of "Dont like it? Stop gaming."

[Blissa]

Yup, and its those people with that mindset which are responsible for what the gaming industry has become lately. Its just sad. Of course theyd probably just proudly say something along the lines of "Dont like it? Stop gaming."

I am almost to that point! $60 for Evolve and another $240 for DLC. $60 for Batman and another $80 for a dlc subscription and now $25 a month to play FFXIV if you want max Inventory spaces. I mean seriously $300 a year to play this game joke!