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  1. #11
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    because yoshi p said the only requirement for the jobs themselves is lvl30, then later added since they are in ishgard they require whatever it takes to get into ishgard too.
    No, he only said "They start at level 30."
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  2. #12
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by elemental10 View Post
    I don't get why people whine about something locked behind an expansion.

    But hey, it's your opinion. I'm supposed to respect that so carry on.
    There has already been entire topcis devoted to discussing this, so I'll give you the TL;DR:

    There are sides that want people to have access to the content that they paid for. A level 30 class, ideally, is unlocked at level 30 without having to complete the previous expansion to be able to enjoy it. The fact that the zones are 50+ is reasonable enough, and gives people things to do for their maxed out jobs, but the fact that this expansion offers nothing enticing to new players is a huge disadvantage for it.

    At the same time, many people prefer that the content be locked and do not feel it a problem. This side is also perfectly reasonable in its beliefs, as it is true that the jobs we are unlocking start off at level 30 (Which is the most compelling reason I have seen given for it.) There are also those who believe Lore is the major reason, however Lore is something that is created by the writers, not made in stone. SE could easily have given the new jobs -outside- of Ishgard if they wanted to, and still maintain continuity.

    In the end, calling people "Whiners" just feels disrespectful to me. People have valid concerns, wants, and desires. They come to the forums to share them. Share in the discussion. :3
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  3. #13
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    because yoshi p said the only requirement for the jobs themselves is lvl30
    No.

    It was already stated at the very first HW announcement that the MSQ has to be finished.
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    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

  4. #14
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    Whiston Aglaeca
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    Cactuar
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    Carpenter Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    No.

    It was already stated at the very first HW announcement that the MSQ has to be finished.
    Yes, to add to this even, we knew we had to complete the main story quest and unlock ishgard before we even knew what level the new jobs started at.

    This is definitely not new information at this point.
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  5. #15
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zordrage View Post
    so how far exactly i need to get in MSQ to be able to create a Dark Knight ?
    Until the CS where Yugiri show you her face.
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  6. #16
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    Zordiark Darkeater
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    Omega
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    ok here is a rundown of my issues because ALLOT of people dont get my issue

    1 the main reason i bought the expansion is the DK

    2 i LOVE tanking ( Glad is boooring as hell and i have a PASSIONATE HATE againts axes its bassicaly immersion breaking for me )

    3 i like the story BUT i could do the story and UNLOCK the new expansion zones even if they would allow us to play DK ( the difference ? i would enjoy the game WAAY more )

    4 Dark Knight sooooo its DK DK DK i dont see a R as a 3rd word DK DK DK ( /angry kid mode off )

    so i Enjoy the game ALLOT but im stuck playing classes i don't like all the way to 50 through ALL the story just to unlock a class that i Enjoy that will start at 30 so i assume i will need to fate grind 20 levels again with it to start questing in the expansion.

    DRK ( happy ? ) is a main reason i bought this game and subbed for it i always liked this game but there was no a class i could get into with my immersion so i avoided it till these days.
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  7. #17
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    Zordiark Darkeater
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    Omega
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    feels like the devs slapping me in the face with the pre order..........

    also yes at this level All i do is spam riotblade and flash thats ALL i need to do and its getting seriously boring im doing this since i got the ability loooool
    it does the most dmg atm and i don't lose aggro ever and i dont even use savage strike because there is no point in it atm.

    wish i would not like Dark classes with heavy armor and swords this much.............
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    Last edited by Zordrage; 06-16-2015 at 07:47 PM.

  8. #18
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    If DRK is the only thing that matters for you in the game while you don't know how it will be played then it's sad. Also don't fate grind, just do the quests, its better.
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  9. #19
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    because yoshi p said the only requirement for the jobs themselves is lvl30, then later added since they are in ishgard they require whatever it takes to get into ishgard too.
    Someone should test out to unlock the new jobs while be on a lv1-29 class
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  10. #20
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    Than Mazus
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 70
    Is this one of the new players that the other thread about MSQ says doesn't exist?
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