Yes, what I’m asking for is a an male exclusive beastmen race. I’ll be laying out the reasons why, how it’ll work, etc. I will also be doing it a manner that will cause unruly people to randomly derail the thread. Why? Because I’m not going to restrict myself on saying silly things when I’m not blowing it out of proportion (I wish this was the case; but, I can’t help but have fun with the miqo’te girl and imagery I pushed with her) Anyway, *cracks knuckles* lets start.
Just before we start I must introduce my opposition.
The questions I’ll be answering is:
1.How will procreation work without a female counterpart?
2.Why do you only want it to be male?
3.What about their muzzles/snouts/feet!?! That means new armor!
4.What about a female; what would you add for them?
5.Resources should only be used on what is popular!
6.What do they add?
Edit: This is why I love the power of being an OP.
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So you went on a huge long winded rant that could have just been said as "I want a playable beast race next expansion pack and I want it male only for some reason"
Or this is yet another joke I am not getting...
Pretty much. I mostly did it out of fun. Otherwise; I asked it to be male exclusive as we know the player base wishes for female humanoid like creatures. This isn't only for this fan base; however, you see it amongst all other games. It's why I mentioned WoW, where you see plenty of male tauren, orcs, etc. However; you rarely see a female counterpart of those races. I do like letting emotions run wild, it is a thrill. I mostly made my counterpart out of humour to myself, in which, I knew wouldn't be funny to anyone else. That's why I said it in the OP.
It is actually strawman; from what I read from the description. However, it is the arguments basically played out by most people I've read from the forums. It isn't popular! It's to ugly! We'd have to adjust all the armor! Etc. I asked for male exclusive character due to everyone wanting something akin to Viera. I'll continue to adresss what people said in this post....Continuing onward!
if you just wanna play with a oversexualized bara/bear race, it won't go further than roegadyns, sorry.
I don't want to play as something like a Roegaydn! That's the point. I've always been the beastmen sort within' a video game. Tauren/Pandaren in WoW. Qunari from Dragon age inquisition. I love playing things away from humans and trust me. Roe aren't satisfying this urge. Honestly, the beastmen race can be the size of Au'ra and I'd still be satisfied. Heck, the OP HAS a picture of them. Funny enough, I never picked up this game at first because I was like, "Anime cute girls, with twinkish boys and oversized buff men. Hrrrmmmmm....Nothing interesting /ignore." I'm new to this game, and I only ended falling in love with it once I first picked up the game and actually played it. I could go on a list; but, that isn't the point. Also it ain't Bara unless it has some body hair *winks* I'm still personally conflicted on changing my Roe into Au'ra due to the fact I can make my Au'ra look somewhat demonic in appearance. Get the horn armor and planned on running around with 4 horns!
I mean, I'm going to be honest, I hope SE would be above watering down and playable beastman race's design so that the girls are cute. I would love to have a beastman race added, but I'd hope it'd have sexual dimorphism akin to the Lalafell or the beast tribes currently on game (sans Sahagin I think).. but that's never going to happen.
And I also hope if they add new races they go for something new, if they just copied the Ronso or whatever race from previous final fantasy games it'd just seem lazy imho.[/
I don't personally care if they add Ronso or not, as long as it is basically a cool beastmen race to play. I personally love the look of Ronso, so I simply played out their appearance. If I liked a different race I'd use them instead. I wish they separated the Au'ra clans, and made one similar to the old concept art well having the humanoid counterpart. The thing with Ronso; however, is that they can't water it down because we'd have Miqo'te 2.0. A female counterpart wouldn't hurt tbh
If you wanted to make fun of that thread, at least do it while it was at its peak. This looks like a punchline that missed the bus.
Awwww, but it is so much fun. Though, besides the point it was to ask in making a male exclusive beastmen race cause I'm afraid the race would be diluted into making a humanoid male with features so it satisfies the majority with humans with [insert feature here]. I don't hate those races at all; all I ask is for something different for next expansion.
Galka reproduce through reincarnation
Actually, that's what inspired me to write this. I thought it'd be awesome to use similar methods for a new male and female race so both crowds get what they want next expansion. Though using crystals to summon as a form of reincarnation seems pretty interesting.
For those who don't get where the strawman came from, it's related to another thread where most beastial race suggestions got shot down because they are apparently hard to make or not popular enough to justify creating them (yet they still made Roes which less than 10% of players use).
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...race-next-time
Ouch, you found me out so early! lol They should have kepted the tails *grumble grumble* I honestly used Miqo'te female because most arguments came from them. I don't know why since the thread wasn't about removing Au'ra.
1.How will procreation work?
“Pssh, you know Square Enix wouldn’t allow male pregnacy ingame right. That’d cause a lot of political problems!” I may swing that way, but that’s not what I’m talking about. If you followed the main storyline I’m sure you’ve heard the explanation of how to kill Ascians, correct? 
If you haven’t, let me explain how life works:
1.Basically for your character once they die they go back into the aetherical flow; in which, will cause life to go into another (pregnancy) to be born again into the world.
2.Primals work similarly; however, once they die they don’t leave a physical body. Awaiting to be summoned again through the use of crystals and worship. Their strength relies on the amount of crystals gathered when summoned.
a. Talking about primals. We know Shiva was once a human/elf whom layed with dragons. Meaning that it is possible for a humanoid such as your character to channel primal like powers into another such as Iceheart, once they’ve stopped in their existence.
“Sheez, I know that. Duh! Why is it important, big shot?”
It’s important due to the fact the beastmen are going to work similarity through a combination of basic life on the planet and how primals work.
These beastmen will be using crystals to summon the ones who died. When this beastmen race dies, he’ll go back into the aetherical flow in which to be summoned through the use of crystals. He’ll use less crystals and people to summon (Only requiring two people to chant. Usually the two determined to raise the child), and his attributes and outer appearance determined by the color of the crystals. Green fur/scales will determined if he was summoned using wind crystals. Red/blue fur/scales through the use of a combination of water and fire crystals. The eye color will be determined by the “parents” the two people who summoned him, with possible side features depending on what the race has (A Ronso it would be the length and shade of his horn). It’s practically reincarnation, except always returning as the same race.
2) Why only male? I want female counterpart!
Well, I would like it too. Howev- “Excuse me, but who would play as an ugly fat female beastmen gal!?! Like, that is so disgusting! Are you some weird furry or something? Not only that, but you don’t see any orc/tauren females on WoW for a reason. There is a reason why blood elf females are mostly played on horde!” *The miqo’te brushes her pigtails back, smirking with a smug filled glee* “If it ain’t popular, it ain’t being made.”
Excuse me; but do you mind not interrupting me? “Hmph.” Sadly, as Imacute GirlXxX has mentioned is that female who are beast-like and tough aren’t played as much as cute girls like miqo’te, Hyru, and as we all now see, Au’ra. Not only that; however, I fear the developers will dilute the beast male counterpart in order to cater to the miqo’te crowd as they make up the majority. Since they wouldn’t want to make the girls look like a separate race causing major sexual dimorphism, they’ll make the males look human in appearance also.
“Too bad, that’s what we want and what you’re going to get! Cute girls and cool boys.” *The miqo’te girl shifts the weight of her hips to one side, her arm bent, hand laying on the side sticking out.” ...I hope not; but, that’s dependant on the developers.
3) What about their muzzles/snouts/feet!?! That means new armor!
“You know how much trouble the developers would have in creating all NEW assets for each and every piece of armor, right?”That’s quite a well thought out argument, but this is easily avoidable using small muzzles, as well as, adjusting the feet to be as similar to humans (I don’t remember the term for it, sadly). I’ll use Ronso as an example. You notice I use them a lot. Not like I’m bias towards them, and would think it is badass to play as them. *hint hint, nudge nudge, wink wink* lol They have small muzzles wouldn’t use giant adjustments to helmets, and if you fix their feet they’d work quite well. The horns would only need to be like Au’ra’s horns and stick out of armor. Not only that; but with creativity, they could make a unique race without a muzzle. As we seen with their previous Dragon_Race males.
4) What about a female; what would you add for them?
I’d do something similar to Mithra. Having males so rare to the race, making females keep them as sacred treasure. Possibly having a female whom had a herd of male being worshipped for the chance of having a blessing to have the honor of bearing a male in their lifetime. This means the females do most of the fighting and work with foreigners. *winks* Viera.
“OMG VIERA, please Square REALSE THEM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’d love you long time! They’re so elegant, fierce and pretty!”
Wouldn’t it make them more fierce if they didn’t have males to protect them and did all the heavy work? Not only that; but about that feet arguement. We know Viera have odd beast feet too; in which, would make them impossible to make. Unless, hint hint, they adjusted their feet.
“I still want cool boys though!” *crosses armors* “More twink male eye candy please!”
Lets just move on...
5) Resources should only be used on what is popular!
“Like I said, a --” Shhhh, we know. That’s why I specifically talked about not adding a female counterpart. I’d still like to add in more, however. The problem is that what is the purpose of putting resources in for something the majority is satisfied with? If you keep giving what only the majority wants then there will be no real uniqueness and you aren’t attracting different types of customers into your game who don’t want to play as something extremely human based. What is the purpose of more eyecandy twink boys, and cute girls if they have 3 different races to play as now. Miqo’te, Au’ra, and Hyru. Yet, there isn’t even one option for a beastial character to play as. You want more customers, correct? Then you need to start aiming for small, but not completely, niche customers. That way your work pays out, since you’ll be getting more money and not nothing since you already attracted the miqo’te crowd.
6) What do they add?
This adds an opportunity for the next expansion to be about uniting all of Eorzea not just the city states. As you could add the beast race as a main character, being more relatable to the other beastmen, possible opening a lot more relationships between them and the people of Eorzea Adding the mechanicals from the primals we’ve seen into boss battles not to harm us, but to aid us. Lets take Garuda’s straight line attack. Tank 1) tanks boss, Tank 2) grabs adds and lines them up with Garuda’s attack so she hits them.
“What about the beastmen ingame? They’ll still attack!”
Yes, they will. However, like humans this can be explained through a faction of each beastmen whom still hold hatred and will attack your characters. I’m sure you know; but, we humans can hold hatred for generations despite peace being made.
TDLR:
1.Crystals and aetherial flow
2.Females would be unpopular
3.Adjust minor difference or design with armor in mind
4.Mithra background
5.Majority only shells money once, new customers month after month
6.An option to expand story in bringing beastmen into cities as a story arc using a character relatable to them. Possible boss battles with primals aiding you.
Q38: In terms of new races, what kind of races are you looking into and will mixed races be introduced?
A38: I don’t think we’ll have mixed races for a while. Since it seems like Viera is popular around the world we have been proactively looking into this, but since having a rabbit male might be kind of weird, maybe we’ll look into having a separate race for the male counterpart.
Here is the source for this. http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/22...baby-behemoth/
I play female orcs and tauren. Femcows are cute and cuddly looking. Your point there is busted.
They could go with something so androgynous that you can't tell what sex it is, or just not have it selectable.
One gender only(ie Mithra) is just stupid imo and its why you can make male Miqo'te.
I didn't say no one played as female orcs and tauren. It's just rare to see in comparison to their male counterparts. I'm completely fine with androgynous; however, it is usually we who complain they don't look feminine enough because we always want recognizable traits. I'll admit, my PoV is bias based on the realm I used to be on. I'll find something more suitable to either weigh my point or yours across. (Be nice if it was yours, trust me). This is the best I could get, since most stats focused on race only. http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...r-TCG-Artworks
Galka reproduce through reincarnation
Actually, that's what inspired me to write this. I thought it'd be awesome to use similar methods for a new male and female race so both crowds get what they want next expansion. Though using crystals to summon as a form of reincarnation seems pretty interesting.
@OP - I see where you're trying to go with it but I have to say I'm against creating a race that's locked to a single gender.
Don't worry, I understand. :P I'm just trying to compromise between popular options. As I'm more in the minority, I have to give some leeway, in some manner or form. Don't mistake this as that I don't want a female beast race at all. I truly do; but, based on statistics and through my worldly view (playing different MMOs) female beastmen aren't usually popular. Honestly, the Ronso females can range from beautiful to more gruff through the art I've seen. I'm sure it could be that way for others based on Square's talents.
Imacute GirlXxX: See, what you're doing is a strawman argument! *sticks tongue out*
Indeed; however, the strawman argument is perfect. I'm not going to change it because...
- Anyone who acts out similar behaviour, such as yourself, will look instantly bad based of how I created you. Sorry, you're a figment of my imagination. Hehe
- It may make me low personally bad; but, it keeps the thread quite clean based on the reason above.
- If you wish to display some snark at me, that's fine. As long as you're bringing arguments forward I don't care in the manner you bring them up as. 
Life is to short to get mad over things.
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