Free Company Duels - Battles

[l---------------l]

Hi, dear people of the forum.

So.... I have seen a lot of topics already about adding open PvP (I'd love it) Duels and other stuff that have, even if painful to say, low possibilities to be in here....

For PvP open areas we know what may happen, almost noone there. To make existing areas PvP available, people arguing about can't level up and etc, mess up the cooperative nice environment of FFXIV... Etc.

For duels, people harassing others to accept a duel with them, even if you have the duel option not activated. "Hah! You afraid? Come one chicken!"



So I thought... Why not make it able so Free companies could challenge each others? Their leaders could have some kind of panel to challenge other leaders being online, set up the rules, etc... It could be in a frontlines map with its rules, it could be in a decided open map (MIST?!... Imagine how awesome it'd be if we can battle in any map )... Etc. Only members of those free companies that agreed to participe in the match would be eligible to take and make damage to the others, so... It's a perfect PvP where all their participants agreed to it, and it's not so 'personal harrassment' as it may be with dueling....

Also, it gives the free companies some meaning to exist... I doubt the airships will be enough, to be honest, everyone just go with sologuilds or FCs having 3-4 members around....There's no really point into having a good FC to defend right now, no challenges with others...

I seriously can think only of a few possible cons for this, really:

- "I got kicked of my FC because I didn't want to participate in a war!" (Then it was your wrong FC, search another.)
- "My leader only makes the matches when I'm outline!" (What's the point of being in a FC where your timeline doesn't match the others?)
- "My FC is too small, I'd need to recruit more people for that! Useless content!"
- "An open field is too big, in a 8 vs 8 FC battle I'd have to walk-fly <Think of heavensward!> too much to engage battle" (Well, this could be adjusted also, adding for example a skill you can use each 2 minutes that says location of enemies in map, except those using hide. That way you know where your enemy is. And even if it's in recast, you can ask in FC for someone to use it and say positions, so many possibilities!)


To add, think about how awesome it will be if we'd be able to battle against other FCs, indeed awesome PvP that'd be, and with the people you enjoy it the most, your FC teammates. And think about all the customizable options, set the timer of the match, the map, the maximum number of participants... Extra rules... Etc... Everything you could whine about could be customizable and decided.

Note: Sincere apologies, my English level is not supreme.

[WellFooled]

I appreciate any attempt to enhance PvP in FFXIV, with a little work I think it can be something special and I think your suggestion could be a lot of fun, but on the other hand I think if features are to be added to PvP I would prefer them to focus on getting more people in the queues (thus lowering the wait time to participate in Instanced PvP) as that would help both solo and group players without the need for much advanced preparation like your suggestion would require.

Things like new rewards, ranked seasons, new modes, and the like.

[Eidolon]

In order to fix PVP, SE needs to fix their net code or the way skills activate as a Melee in PVP.

Remember folks, please don't jump in PVP...

[l---------------l]

Well, the queues in PVP are terrible indeed, but, we have already discussed that in PvP forum thousand times and yet not a single reply about it... There's a simple, very simple thing that'd avoid this:


REMOVE GC RESTRICTION.


It is like, if there's 18 people in flames, 103 in Snakes, 204 in MAelstrong, nobody of them will queue in a hour because it is trying to make a 72p match, and it's lacking of 6 people in flames (Extreme and unrealistic case without true stats of the server, but I think it serves the purpose for illustrating us? )

If all those players would just join to three random teams, queues would be not faster, no... ALMOST INSTANT!....PErhaps not so much like that but, 5 minutes for sure....

I mean, if you're a PvPer, you know it, most of people you see in PvP are always the same ones all over, the loyal ones who calmly and patiently await even one hour if needed just for the sake of enjoying 10 minutes of battle, and while waiting, geez... Showup in Mordhona or crafting...

Imagine if, people is still doing and trying hard PVP despite the queue... Imagine if no GC limitation-restriction... Or any other method given...

Too bad they seem to give priority to the lore in this matter.

I fear that in Heavensward, nobody will be willing to wait one hour for entering PvP since too many things to do, chocobo to summon and dungeons to go, etc... So PVP will be basically... DEAD until alexander savage and new Frontlines map comes.

Oh, but whatever, this is not the thread for it, hehe... Indeed a FC match could need of some preparation and so... But, can be really festival-interesting event to do between FC.... As it is right now, FC are.. Uhm, how to say it... Cold? Insipid?

[Eidolon]

Honestly don't get how you can enjoy PVP in this game, but I guess that's your own thing. Even still, remove the GC Restriction is the most obvious of solutions, and it's kinda amusing that SE's never done it. Hopefully with the introduction of 3.1 they'll abolish it, but they've been pretty adamant in their stance regarding this one since day 1.


I still stand by that the slow PVP que times are a symptom of the poor netcode in PVP. Melee's won't want to que for PVP because half their skills become unusable in half the scenarios (so take out Melee DPS and tanks) because they have to chase people to playing Benny Hill music and even though the skill is -attempting- to activate, it deosn't complete because the game can't figureo ut if they're in range or not.

To alleviate this, they could increase the range of melee attacks by a small distance, enough to compensate for the 2-3 second delay, during PVP.

However, I stand by my statement - focus on fixing pvp before trying to add new bells and whistles to it. Having all the awesome maps in the world won't matter if your PVP is an unenjoyable, mess of a game.

[l---------------l]

Well, it's true that I basically play range in PvP, especially 72p... But I have seen pretty far amount of decent melees, one of my same server and GC even could match his skills with me. I don't think their melee skill activation is wrong at all, not at least for some people. I still having problems activating mine, but, well, I live in an island close to Africa so.... I'll always have the high ping issue, regardless of it's in Canada or moves to Europe.

(Actually moving to Europe would only increase my disadvantage towards others )

[Devils_Lawyer]

You got a better change of scoring a football match with the empire then to get SE to back down on their GC restriction because its part of "lore" which is impossible to change

[KaedrianLiang]

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If this happens. I would like it so that the challenged FC is forced to accept, that way as a server we can bully those bot FC's that always make it past the detection net.





.... and that would be the only reason why i would endorse such a feature.

[l---------------l]

Bumping, I think this is a worthy idea for adding more fun and overall, utility and a feeling of unity to Free Companies.